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**imported_JoshVette** · 06-22-2009, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by David Fermani

Wow - You really stuck your neck out for that statement Josh. :secret

You know what I`m talking about David. It`s really quite sad isn`t it.

**imported_JoshVette** · 06-22-2009, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by David Fermani

Wow - You really stuck your neck out for that statement Josh. :secret

It`s true. You know what I`m talking about David. It`s really quite sad isn`t it.

**David Fermani** · 06-22-2009, 10:14 PM

Sure is. Todd was a pretty large asset to this community. Things haven`t been the same ever since and nobody`s Click N Brags compare. He pushed the envelope for the whole Autopian concept IMHO. Such a shame......

**YoMike** · 06-22-2009, 10:58 PM

Wasn`t it just a time out and Todd never came back?

What do i know I sell yoyo`s!

**Thomas Dekany** · 06-23-2009, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by David Fermani

1 - Things haven`t been the same ever since

2 - and nobody`s Click N Brags compare.

1 - that may be a good thing.

2 - this statement is the whole core of the problem.

Thodd tried to have the biggest d!ck and I can tell you that

Autopia was never about showing off. This and most other

communities are about sharing information.

That is why he is gone and all the BS with it.

Autopia ((David

will be just fine with or without him (or any

one else).:2thumbs::2thumbs::2thumbs:

(let your work do the talking)

**gmblack3** · 06-23-2009, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by tdekany

1 - that may be a good thing.

2 - this statement is the whole core of the problem.

Thodd tried to have the biggest d!ck and I can tell you that

Autopia was never about showing off. This and most other

communities are about sharing information.

That is why he is gone and all the BS with it.

Autopia ((David

will be just fine with or without him (or any

one else).:2thumbs::2thumbs::2thumbs:

(let your work do the talking)

Thomas, You make no posts for over a month, but like clockwork you are here to show your hate for Todd. IMO your level of class is at an all time low.

Your comment about Todd never sharing information is about as redicilious as they come.

**David Fermani** · 06-23-2009, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by tdekany

1 - that may be a good thing.

2 - this statement is the whole core of the problem.

Thodd tried to have the biggest d!ck and I can tell you that

Autopia was never about showing off. This and most other

communities are about sharing information.

That is why he is gone and all the BS with it.

Autopia ((David

will be just fine with or without him (or any

one else).:2thumbs::2thumbs::2thumbs:

(let your work do the talking)

That`s why you have so many Click N Brags right? I was looking forward to the new Tomass in hopes his head would stop swelling like his customer`s paint. Too bad now that he just returned being the same old creame of the crop of the bottom of the barrel detailer. :sosad

Here Tomass, just in case you missed it:

Originally Posted by JoshVette

The truth is, the whole "multi accounts" thing was just the tool to do the job that a certain someone wanted done.

Todd`s mistakes were blown out of proportion.

When someone is out to get you, it`s really just a matter of time before they find a way.

I would elaborate more cause I know the inside truth, but it`s really water under the bridge at this point.

Josh

I guess Josh didn`t believe your (i.e. Brian Brice`s) side of the story huh?

**imported_Jakerooni** · 06-23-2009, 07:23 AM

As far as the whole Todd thing goes.. As a person over the nets I`ve never really been a fan of Todd. However as a detailer I`ll even fully admit it`s hard pressed to find other detailers on his level. Including most of the top detailers on this site. While I think there`s quite a few people with Todd`s skill I think there`s very very few with Todd`s paitence. He`s extreamely detailed in his write up`s and even quite helpful behind the sceens. It`s not his cars. Even though they may be nice eye candy it`s what he does to those cars that remind me of Barry and Rasky and even Bob (all of which I personally consider to be some of the very best detailers on here) I mean polishing out a tool kit that came with the car? How many of us would just dust it off and set it aside and put it back when we`re done? I know I fall into that crowd. So with that Tomas I would have to disagree with you on Todd.

However I find it funny Josh gets on here and jumps Thomas for only putting out half truths and such and leaving things really shady and then he does the exact same thing with the whole "Hey I know the real story but I`m not going to tell anyone and just leave it at that" Type of comment. seems rather hipocritcal if you ask me.

Now in war there`s always going to be casulities on both sides of the coin. It seems like (in what little information us normal people are even allowed to know) Brian and Todd decided to go to war with each other for a variety of reasons. They brought it on here (and other forums from what I gather) Davidb got rid of both of them... Wether Todd is innocent or not really isn`t the point anymore. It was a major distraction to this site and the right choice was to get rid of the whole issue. Not just half of it. Because like stated (if this brice guy really is that vengefull) if someone really wants to get you eventually they will find a way. Why put the site as risk over someone else`s squabbles? The right choice was made for the site.

**autoconcierge** · 06-23-2009, 07:27 AM

As I stated on this subject before, Todd and I had a few dust ups but I do miss the write ups and Ferrari`s he worked on maybe David.B can pardon Todd for time served??

**MSOsr** · 06-23-2009, 08:18 AM

How can "Click and Brag" not be about showing off?

Todd was always very helpful to ignorant me and I miss his posts. I even told my wife about him and she`s not a car person at all. She was amazed at what he could do with a car (I tried to lay the groundwork for me taking my car to Todd for a "fixin`", but it didn`t work when I told her the probable cost!)

I`d pardon him.

Mike

**imported_RZJZA80** · 06-23-2009, 08:25 AM

I don`t really know what he did that was so bad, something about using accounts to pump up the views of his threads? It`s probably a lot worse than it sounds, but someone in another thread was stating that his work wasn`t really all that great, that he used camera tricks to make it look perfect? I forget which thread that was.

**Bert** · 06-23-2009, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by RZJZA80

I don`t really know what he did that was so bad, something about using accounts to pump up the views of his threads? It`s probably a lot worse than it sounds, but someone in another thread was stating that his work wasn`t really all that great, that he used camera tricks to make it look perfect? I forget which thread that was.

Oh boy, let`s not get over exposure claims flying again.

**Rob Tomlin** · 06-23-2009, 03:01 PM

**imported_JoshVette** · 06-23-2009, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by David Fermani

Here Tomass, just in case you missed it:

I guess Josh didn`t believe your (i.e. Brian Brice`s) side of the story huh?

I talked to all parties involved on this as I wanted to hear it from the horses mouths. It`s hard to know what`s truth and what`s half truth and what`s a lie and so forth cause there`s so much involved, but at some point one has to make a judgement call one way or the other whether they are right or wrong. I could be wrong or I could be right, only two people truely know the facts..... I can live with what I believe to be the truth and that`s about it. :think:

....That`s my official statement. :2thumbs:

Josh

**imported_JoshVette** · 06-23-2009, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Jakerooni

However I find it funny Josh gets on here and jumps Thomas for only putting out half truths and such and leaving things really shady and then he does the exact same thing with the whole "Hey I know the real story but I`m not going to tell anyone and just leave it at that" Type of comment. seems rather hipocritcal if you ask me.

Call me whatever you want Jake, it`s fine. I`m not doing what you`re accusing me of though, I`m not telling a half truth, I`m just saying that I know and I`m not telling, very different.

If you want the story you should call both Brian and Todd only and find out for yourself, otherwise my telling it would be second and third hand info and not as accurate...... which is the very reason why people have been banned from this forum to begin with.

Josh