Help with 2002 Toyota RAV4

**Preachers Sheets** · 04-30-2002, 07:22 AM

I came from an automatic saturn to a stick shift Camaro SS and I like standard alot more. I don`t mind the traffic or the stop and go in the city, it`s a little trade off when your friend is trying to eat something and you dump the clutch and the food is one with his face :p or when you want to launch. I don`t know, it`s just more fun, that`s why I got a sports car.

**imported_memnuts** · 04-30-2002, 09:31 AM

Joed you are correct at 19 y.o. When I lived in Boston at that age manual was the way to go. More sporty. But at 48 y.o automatic is my cup of tea. I am as fast if not faster off the line than 95% of manual trans and with over 300 hp and plenty of low end torque sustaining acceleration is no problem. I have owned many manuals in my younger days ( VW,TR6, Rx7, BMW, Acura and several trucks).These were small displacement engined cars in which manual trans aided them in better performance. Nevertheless, with the traffic situation these days the joy of cruising has been almost completely demolished, working a clutch is added displeasure to me. I would like to revisit this question with you in 20 years and see if your view has changed.

**Preachers Sheets** · 04-30-2002, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by blkZ28Conv

I would like to revisit this question with you in 20 years and see if your view has changed.

haha I plan to get a second car, something easy to drive, not so fast and it will be an automatic.

I`ve always heard to take the standard when the car can use the manual tranny to squeeze a few more ounces of power but if your going to go with a car as fast as our Camaros then just spend more time holding on then shifting.

**imported_memnuts** · 04-30-2002, 11:04 AM

HeHeHeHe :xyxthumbs Joed

**2wheelsx2** · 04-30-2002, 11:18 AM

In a car, even a big sedan, I would prefer a stick. But on a full size truck, no way, unless I was doing really heavy duty 4 wheeling. However, I haven`t driven one of the tipronic cars yet.

Having said all this though, I am not a parent, so I don`t have to worry about having either of my hands available to break up fights in the family-mobile, or stop someone from hangingout of a window.

**bmerjorge21** · 04-30-2002, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by blkZ28Conv

I would like to revisit this question with you in 20 years and see if your view has changed.

Yeah, why is this? My dad gave up @ 32!!

I`ve been real spoiled myself, current and last car are autos. Everytime I drive a stick now I realize why people say that they are a PITA.

**SuperBuick** · 09-22-2003, 02:28 PM

Id rather a 2hp manual car than a 500hp auto car. I hate automatic transmissions with a passion. Even the shift levers in autos look uglier than their manual counterparts lolol!

-Tom

**K_Csaxo** · 09-22-2003, 03:05 PM

gotta be manual for me, gives me a sense a control over an auto box. but haveing said that i would go for auto when in london traffic, its a nightmare!

**imported_garyo** · 09-23-2003, 10:40 AM

Currently I enjoy driving too much for most of the automatics on the market. I think the electronic controled clutch like the BMW SMGII or Ferrari F1 are great and I could easily live with one of those for any car, but the normal auto or the torque converter manual/auto`s are annoying. The normal auto transmissions are so geared towards fuel economy that it is annoying for anytype of fun driving. It never fails that when I want to "squirt" through traffic or a corner in the wife`s BMW it has to downshift. However, in my fun car, I just keep the gear so that I am sitting right in the heart of the power band (I never shift before 4000k rpm) and just punch and go. Nothing is more fun that to cruise at 3500k in second and just punch and go. BTW age wise I am 35. I don`t see an automatic transmission in my primary driver anytime soon.

**Robert O** · 09-23-2003, 05:51 PM

Manual. The day I got my learners permit I started driving a manual and will never drive an automatic.

**mlebarron** · 09-23-2003, 09:57 PM

Manual... although my dream is an M3... so I`m going to debate true manual vs SMG for the next 10 years until I can actually afford one...

what do you think? just love the feel of the clutch? or could you go for SMG?