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    What is important though is that car`s rotors are designed for ceramic pads; otherwise the rotors will typically wear faster

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    Wife`s matrix had a brake job a few months ago (new pads OEM, Turn Rotor`s, Rebuilt Calipers, breed system ) and it still doesn`t have that much of brake dust on the rims and stops quick.
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    retty much. Though they may not make you stop any better on the street
    Well, I actually said it doesn`t shorten stopping distance.

    there is no reason you can not use them on the your daily driver.
    I never said you couldn`t. In fact, if someone likes the look or takes their DD to the track, by all means they should buy them.

    We have been installing these types of rotors on cars for years.
    Thanks for that info.

    I figured you would have your own opinion instead of using information I already know about from a website or a manufactor.
    I gave you my own opinion, which like any reasonable person, is based on certain facts that I`ve ascertained in one way or another. If my doctor tells me I need a to start taking a "statin", what I would do is find the most relevant material on statins, read it and form my opinion. If someone than asked me "why" I had such an opinion, I`d state it, link to the supporting evidence for my opinion and call it a day. Not really rocket science.

    I was looking for you to explain why you shouldn`t, better in your own words.
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    OK, it looks like something is cooking here guys, so all I have to ask is take it to PM`s or I`ll might have to tell the OP that this thread has to close.:chillpill:
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    Nothing cooking Angelo, I thought User Name had some type of vital information when he said in his first post to only use them if you are going to take your car to the track. I was going to pass this information on to my customers that have had these rotors on for years with trouble free daily driving and to those that were thinking of installing these type of rotors.

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    [Brembo aims to mass produce carbon-ceramic brakes with new joint venture
    New technologies always cost the early adopters big bucks. But higher demand leads to increased supply, and costs eventually go down to the level accessibly by the common man. So while carbon-ceramic brakes might be a big ticket item right now ? often dipping into five figures as optional equipment on European exotica ? Brembo has formed a new joint venture with carbon-fiber supplier SGL Group with the specific goal of mass-producing the brake technology for widespread application.

    Carbon-ceramic brakes offer several major benefits over cast-iron discs -- specifically light weight and the ability to dissipate heat quickly, preventing fade -- with few drawbacks. The only downside is that the extant manufacturing process is labor-intensive, driving the cost up, which is why they`re currently only available on high-end exotic supercars. Brembo SGL Carbon Ceramic Brakes, however, which just began operations at its Milan headquarters on the first of this month, aims to streamline the production of the rotors so that they can be implemented across the industry. (That`s a good thing.) Scope out the press release below the fold for more]
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    My `92 S10 Blazer has 192k on it with the original rotors.
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    I took advantage of the Goodwrench special and got the ceramics installed. So far, so good. Stops when I need it to, reduced dusting and no noise. I`ll wait a couple of more weeks and give an update.

    As a side note, I asked the parts guy how much the shocks cost for both the front and back of my Sierra. Fronts were $153/each and rears were $197/each. Looks like I`ll be making several trips to the plasma bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBumper View Post
    As a side note, I asked the parts guy how much the shocks cost for both the front and back of my Sierra. Fronts were $153/each and rears were $197/each. Looks like I`ll be making several trips to the plasma bank.
    Whoa! Those are some high-dollar shocks!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RustyBumper View Post
    I took advantage of the Goodwrench special and got the ceramics installed. So far, so good. Stops when I need it to, reduced dusting and no noise. I`ll wait a couple of more weeks and give an update.

    As a side note, I asked the parts guy how much the shocks cost for both the front and back of my Sierra. Fronts were $153/each and rears were $197/each. Looks like I`ll be making several trips to the plasma bank.
    Quote Originally Posted by Luster View Post
    Whoa! Those are some high-dollar shocks!!!
    Priced out a set of Koni`s for are cars yet bill?

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    Depending on the vehicle you install them on, low dust pads may not have the bite of the stock pads. As noted they will dust much less.

    I installed akebono pads on my wifes 99 740il. As many of you know stock BMW brake pads have a lot of dust. Two days of driving and they are covered in thick dust.

    The akebono pads took about 300 miles to break in. After that they seem to be fine, but they do not have the initial bite of the original pads. So some adjustments to our driving styles was needed.

    After 3 weeks of driving the wheels still don`t look dusty now. :clap:
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    I don`t think there is anything wrong with having them on the street, there are just a whole host of disproved myths about "performance" pads and rotors. You pay lots of money and while they will outperform stock pads and rotors on the track (usually due to heating and hard breaking) they DO NOT outperform stock brakes on normal street driving.

    http://www.scirocco.org/faq/brakes/p...n/pfpage1.html

    http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp...lections.shtml

    http://www.brembo.com/ENG/HighPerformance-Brakes/FAQs/ (even Brembo admits it on their website).

    Here is the Brembo website quote: "Therefore, an increase in braking power will do nothing to stop the vehicle in a shorter distance."

    So, for me I`ve always thought... do it if you like the look on your car, or if you take the car to the track, but don`t do it if you suddenly think your new pads and rotors are going to make you have a shorter stopping distance under normal driving conditions.

    Seems like a lot of money to pay for very little benefit.
    I fully agree. IMO its more of a bling thing having drilled rotors on the street.

    I used to track my old 01 Z06 on the road course. Most of us would just buy the $25 shipped each standard rotors from rockauto. Of course we used a track pad from PFC or carbotech with track tires from hoosier or kumho. A friend of mine bought the thicker drilled rotors for about $200 each. He said he could not tell the difference and they did not last 8x longer then the $25 rotors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmblack3 View Post
    Depending on the vehicle you install them on, low dust pads may not have the bite of the stock pads. As noted they will dust much less.
    Exactly right!!! When I swapped my stock pads for ceramics a lost a lot "bite". The feel was not the same at all.
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