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    Re: Why so many hours?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stokdgs View Post
    Having a fully insulated and sheetrocked, painted garage walls, door, and ceiling really helps keep everything much cleaner.
    Guess that explains my situation. Heh heh, I didn`t appreciate the diff a proper ceiling makes until I had one No more having to rewash every time something sits overnight during a Detail!
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    Re: Why so many hours?

    I can wash in my garage and my paint doesn`t get touched so I`m in the same boat as Accumulator
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    Re: Why so many hours?

    Bill D- Wonder what we`d do if we couldn`t wash our way....

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    Re: Why so many hours?

    It’s hot as hell here half of the year, gotta wash in the wee hours of the morning or late at night if you don’t have a garage and a squeegee.
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    Re: Why so many hours?

    Bill D- Oh yeah...your climate, forgot about that. I was thinking about all the foamgun output we create, how it`d be...something...if we were washing outside. I`d leave a *river* of suds in the neighborhood, don`t think I could get away with it for long.

    I`ve just *never* not had a floordrain when doing this stuff, can`t imagine how I`d deal with the runoff.

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    Re: Why so many hours?

    My driveway is real wide so I can squeegee the foam out on it and still keep it on my property and off the street. In my 12 years in this house I don’t think the neighbors even noticed once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill D View Post
    My driveway is real wide so I can squeegee the foam out on it and still keep it on my property and off the street. In my 12 years in this house I don’t think the neighbors even noticed once.
    Well, you don`t let yours get a filthy as I do...so I`m probably doing the equivalent of four (of your) washes every time Takes me about that many passes on some areas if I`m being nice and gentle.

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    Re: Why so many hours?

    Wow! Four of my washes in one! Now that’s remarkable!
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    Re: Why so many hours?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill D View Post
    Wow! Four of my washes in one! Now that’s remarkable!
    Well, if I`m gonna touch it that many times then every contact has to be SO gentle that, well...it`s like they don`t even hurt the dirt. Yeah, the water company loves me, as do shampoo vendors

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    You should get some complimentary shampoo after the huge amount you have bought!
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    Re: Why so many hours?

    Quote Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy View Post
    That orange peel discussion came up a long time ago, before David B sold the forum, when was that, 2010? The way I remember it is that when they started to use the 2-sided galvanized panels the galvanize was not as smooth as the upper panels and the finish did not look uniform, so they WANTED the orange peel to be the dominant appearance so that you couldn`t see the substrate difference between various substrates, which were all slightly different--plain steel, galvanized steel, aluminum, reinforced plastics, etc. IIRC there was some pretty heated discussion about this, I think there was some member who didn`t believe they were doing orange peel on purpose...who was that? Oh yeah, it was me. I believe it was David Fermani that educated us about this, although I`m not sure he provided the rationale, which is why some of us (er, me) didn`t believe it until we researched it a bit.
    I believe it, the lower part of the doors and side panels on my new 2018 Tacoma felt just like the outside of an orange. I complained to the dealer and they told me they all come this way.

    Apologies for the sidetrack...
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    Re: Why so many hours?

    On the lower portions of some trucks it`s intentional. I think there is something textured they apply before painting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wannafbody View Post
    On the lower portions of some trucks it`s intentional. I think there is something textured they apply before painting.
    On some cars too, e.g., the rocker panels of our Audis. Sometimes it`s just a paintable version of the Gravel Guard/Body Schutz stuff underneath the regular b/c paint, other times they use a different type of paint altogether.
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    Re: Why so many hours?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike lambert View Post
    I’m guessing the average time I spend on the paint, not including decon is about 6-8 hours depending on the vehicle size. As far as if the client wants perfection, if you are a true professional, you would explain to them it is unreasonable to expect that. I get as close as possible without damaging the vehicle. I’m not talking about the damage you mentioned in Jim’s video. I’m talking the average damage seen from a rotary and poor washing.
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    Re: Why so many hours?

    Exactly
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