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    Re: Do you clay or do you use a decontamination product?

    Quote Originally Posted by Accumulator View Post
    Never ran across that...should`ve asked Ketch, bet he would`ve known.

    Clay came to the US around 92-94ish I think. The FK decon stuff was around before that wasn`t it? Like way before I thought, at least the way he talked about it made it seem that predated the Valugard stuff.

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    Re: Do you clay or do you use a decontamination product?

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    Clay came to the US around 92-94ish I think. The FK decon stuff was around before that wasn`t it? Like way before I thought, at least the way he talked about it made it seem that predated the Valugard stuff.
    That`s what I somehow think too...but I don`t know for certain. And yeah, clay dates to `90 IIRC.

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    Re: Do you clay or do you use a decontamination product?

    So does the paint require correction after each use of the clay towels ?


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    Re: Do you clay or do you use a decontamination product?

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    So does the paint require correction after each use of the clay towels ?


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    Depends who you ask. IMO it is the same as clay in that respect. Some say claying is fine, others say you must polish afterwards. I say it depends.

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    Re: Do you clay or do you use a decontamination product?

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    Depends who you ask. IMO it is the same as clay in that respect. Some say claying is fine, others say you must polish afterwards. I say it depends.
    A lot of it is undoubtedly just that !YMMV! thing.

    And IMO any time you`re dislodging something (potentially) abrasive from the paint, that something is a potential scratch right up until it`s off the vehicle. And that`s assuming the decontamination medium (clay, nanoskin) isn`t in-and-of itself abrasive.

    "My [clay/whatever] doesn`t mar paint for me!" sounds like Famous Last Words IMO! Yeah, I basically take that position about my claying, but would I *bet my LIFE* that I could clay a Jet Black or matte-finish vehicle without doing *any* damage? No way.

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    Re: Do you clay or do you use a decontamination product?

    I agree that it depends. Any type of claying on my black Nissan Frontier will mar the paint.

    So it depends on how soft the paint is and also how contaminated the paint is. If you are picking up a lot stuff with the clay then there is a good chance it will mar the paint. Traditional clay allows the debris to embed into the clay instead of sitting on top the surface but don`t think the same can be said of the towels and mitts. That is why I will use a clay bar on dirty cars instead of the mitts/towels.

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    Re: Do you clay or do you use a decontamination product?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronkh View Post
    I still clay. Takes a short time, and I get familiar with the paint.......
    Last time I tried that the paint filed a complaint with HR.

    That said, I`ll always Iron-x or similar because I enjoy the smell.
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    Re: Do you clay or do you use a decontamination product?

    So I guess the consensus is- there isn’t one.

    The question that still exists is- what one is more efficient? I find flaying a huge pain. Squeezing it. Turning it over. Hoping you don’t drop it.

    Are the towels as efficient despite of personal preference ?


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    Re: Do you clay or do you use a decontamination product?

    Quote Originally Posted by Striker View Post
    So I guess the consensus is- there isn’t one.

    The question that still exists is- what one is more efficient?
    I suppose there won`t be a consensus on *that* either!

    I find [claying] a huge pain...
    Same here, but then I make it hard on myself.

    Are the towels as efficient despite of personal preference ?
    Efficient or effective...or both? They sure sound efficient to me, less time/effort (if you`re correcting anyhow).

    I suspect the efficacy is related to what/how much contamination you`re cleaning off, e.g., while you need chemicals to get into the pores/micro-fissures of the paint, a lot of stuff is just on the surface and I`d expect the towels to be fine for that. If they didn`t work as well as clay I bet we would`ve heard about it by now.

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    Re: Do you clay or do you use a decontamination product?

    Quote Originally Posted by Striker View Post
    So I guess the consensus is- there isn’t one.

    The question that still exists is- what one is more efficient? I find flaying a huge pain. Squeezing it. Turning it over. Hoping you don’t drop it.

    Are the towels as efficient despite of personal preference ?


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    Don`t know if I`m too late to join the party, but here goes...
    I use the Cobra mitt, got the Mc37 kit 49$, great tool, stays on your hand, rinses easily, light grade, works amazingly !
    Nano-skin mini towel 20$, gets into very tight places, med grade (so don`t put pressure), rinses & squeezes out nice, works!
    Nano-skin sponge 10$, flips out of my hands so I might cut the sponge part off. Light & med. grade.

    Just some suggestions that I`ll be trying
    Blackfire has a mitt out now, 25$ can`t go wrong. Mitts are nice, just dip into a soapy bucket or hose it on the hand.
    Optimum has a towel at 25$, light grade.

    IMO.. hate the clay. Just pisses me off, after a battle with the last stuff I whipped off the balcony
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    Re: Do you clay or do you use a decontamination product?

    I’m not a fan of clay either. What’s the MC37 kit you’re talking about above?


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    Re: Do you clay or do you use a decontamination product?

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    I’m not a fan of clay either. What’s the MC37 kit you’re talking about above?


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    Mckee`s 37 Paint Clean Combo.
    Mc37 foam shampoo, Cobra mitt and a 16x24 WW.
    I use the WW for windows.
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    Re: Do you clay or do you use a decontamination product?

    Thank you! So this looks like it could replace my claying?

    Would you say that kit is your number one towel for decon or do you prefer something else ?


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    Re: Do you clay or do you use a decontamination product?

    If you`re just doing your own cars and don`t want to spend allot of $$$ the Nano Skin sponges work great. https://www.autopia-carcare.com/nano...l#.Whw6LDdrxaQ They come individually also for $13 each. I use UWW+ as a lube and have not seen significant marring with the fine sponge, but I usually just do it once a year before polishing and after a chemical decon.












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    Re: Do you clay or do you use a decontamination product?

    Quote Originally Posted by Striker View Post
    Thank you! So this looks like it could replace my claying?

    Would you say that kit is your number one towel for decon or do you prefer something else ?


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    Me, I use a small nano-skin mini towel for corners, door handles, wheels. anywhere you need flexibility.
    That one is my Favorite. It`s 7x7 about hand size. med. grade

    That kit, has a smallish mitt, which is a microfiber covered foam wash media with the rubberized side for decon.
    I use it for the larger areas.
    That is why I will be trying the BlackFire mitt, so I can have one on each hand,
    and go to town after I foam down the vehicle.

 

 
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