Can a vehicle be too new to polish and coat?

[cobrar97]

I`m waiting for the delivery of a new Ford F150. From the time it rolls off the line to the time I take delivery is about 2 weeks.
When I get it, my intention was to polish it an coat it.
I`ve now been told both ways: First that Ford bakes the paint finish and it can be polished and coated right away with no troubles. I`ve had a body shop tell me the same thing. I`ve had another body shop and some random folks say that it needs to wait at least 4 weeks before polishing and coating it.
Does anyone have an opinion on this?

[Stokdgs]

Congratulations on your new truck !
Hope it works our great for you -

By the time the trucks actually get to the Dealers lots, they have been really dry and cured for a long enough time..

I have purchased a couple of new F150`s - the last year (2004) they made the Ford F150 Lightning, and a Ford F150 Harley Davidson and both were beautifully painted, dried and cured when they got to me..

Here is how you can tell for sure - get down close to the paint - can you smell paint ? If you can, it`s still outgassing - paint cures from the bottom layer/s up and out...

You will be able to do anything you want to the paint and it will be fine..
Good luck !
Dan F

[ShaneB]

polishing? not an issue at all. The issue comes from sealing in any solvents that haven`t yet made their way out during the curing time. Paint can be baked to dry, but to actually fully cure can take a few weeks. This all can vary on the paint system used. Some may be ok to coat right away, some may need a month or two. Have to do your research and figure out what the PAINT manufacturer says (not the auto manufacturer).

Honestly if it were me, just to be on the safe side, id wait 5-6 weeks.

[cobrar97]

Congratulations on your new truck !
Hope it works our great for you -

By the time the trucks actually get to the Dealers lots, they have been really dry and cured for a long enough time..

I have purchased a couple of new F150`s - the last year they made the Ford F150 Lightning, and a Ford F150 Harley Davidson and both were beautifully painted, dried and cured when they got to me..

You will be able to do anything you want to the paint and it will be fine..
Good luck !
Dan F

Sounds like you appreciate a good Ford truck. This one is a 2016 Limited. It`s going to be the Blue Jeans metallic color. I`ve had gray and silver trucks for a while now, and this will be the first "colored" truck I`ve had. Pretty excited to see how it shines up.

[Stokdgs]

Cobrar97 -

Yes, I do appreciate a good Ford Truck !!

If it were not for the Ex, I would still have both of those bad boys...
The Lightning was unbelievably fast with that supercharged small block... Loved it...

I like the color choice you made - will have to look it up and get a closer view...

My Lightning was silver gray metallic - and the Harley Davidson was of course, black... So wish I had at least one of them again, to go to H/D of China and pick up a Shed...
Dan F

[cobrar97]

Cobrar97 -

Yes, I do appreciate a good Ford Truck !!

If it were not for the Ex, I would still have both of those bad boys...
The Lightning was unbelievably fast with that supercharged small block... Loved it...

I like the color choice you made - will have to look it up and get a closer view...

My Lightning was silver gray metallic - and the Harley Davidson was of course, black... So wish I had at least one of them again, to go to H/D of China and pick up a Shed...
Dan F

"Wished I would have kept..." That`s a popular statement among car enthusiasts (nuts). And I know exactly what you mean. I LOVE grays...they have always been my favorite. I think colors are starting to make a comeback after years of gray, white, silver, platinum, etc, etc. Blue seems to be getting pretty popular; and the Ford blue is real dark and looks pretty good (at least I hope it does).

[TuxedoTaurus]

Ford is real hit and miss with paint quality (I`m a Ford guy through and through). Inspect the truck thoroughly before you accept.

Also get a ppf on it ASAP. It chips super easy.

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[RaskyR1]

The paint used at the factory is different then what the body shops is use. As Dan already mentioned the paint will be fully cured before it even hits the dealers lot. Polish and coat away!

[RaskyR1]

Sounds like you appreciate a good Ford truck. This one is a 2016 Limited. It`s going to be the Blue Jeans metallic color. I`ve had gray and silver trucks for a while now, and this will be the first "colored" truck I`ve had. Pretty excited to see how it shines up.

That`s a SWEET truck! I`ve configured that truck/color dozens of times now for when the lease is up on my Ram!

Not sure I can swing that much coin and I may end up with a Tacoma, but you mind if I ask what the price is you got it for?

[RaysWay]

Pics plz

[cobrar97]

That`s a SWEET truck! I`ve configured that truck/color dozens of times now for when the lease is up on my Ram!

Not sure I can swing that much coin and I may end up with a Tacoma, but you mind if I ask what the price is you got it for?

Sounds like I`m good-to-go with the polish and coating then.

I`ve always had Platinum F-150`s and kept my eye on the Limited versions. Until now, the color options didn`t work for me, and I personally didn`t like the red interior. I know that many people don`t like the new Mojave colored interior, but it looked fantastic to me. It`s all personal preference on these types of wild colors.
I`m pretty excited, and I don`t mind sharing the info about the purchase. Being the Limited...of course all the usual F-150 rebates don`t apply :-( and most dealers try to get OVER MSRP...so discounting isn`t easy there either. Ford is so far backed up on them (should have hit lots last December), they are already cancelling some of the standing 2016 orders on the customers and there will be NO 2016 dealer stock units produced. Any of the ones you see on lots are customer-order trucks that the customer didn`t want to wait and backed out to buy something else (most of them Platinums).
Anyhow...the MSRP on mine was $66,565. Invoice price was $61,928. I found an amazing dealer and a superb general manager to work with. I ended up buying the truck for Invoice MINUS dealer holdback (dealer`s profit) PLUS $350. That put me at $60,320. Any rebates at time of delivery will come off of that. Currently on the Limited, I can take $1000 cash off, or I can do 0% financing. The financing saves me more in the long-run, so I`ll probably opt for that...but if you took the cash rebate; it`s $59,320. Considering the vehicle, I thought it was a good deal.
I did talk to numerous, NUMEROUS dealers before ordering...and I seriously had a couple laugh in my face when I told them the deal I was offered and was shopping around with. So I think I did pretty good.
I think the rebates and things will start to increase when the dealer orders come around for 2017 at the end of this year and the beginning of next. I know the price you can get a Platinum for is very aggressive right now.


VEGA - When I get it all cleaned up, I`ll certainly post some pics. Like I said above, I haven`t had a "colored" vehicle for a long time. I have some pretty high hopes here.

[cardaddy]

Yeah... I`d buff and coat that puppy RIGHT AWAY!

Congrats on that puppy fo` sho`.


I ordered a Silverado a week ago, Siren Red tintcoat, crew cab, cocoa/dune heated/cooled leather, 6" steps, sunroof, advanced driver assist, (like it keeps it in the lane when you`re not paying attention) and LOTS of chrome, including 22" wheels, in 4x4 of course.

Told the dealer in no uncertain terms.

Do NOT unwrap it.
Do NOT WASH IT.
Do NOT even LOOK at it till I`m there!

It`ll have a number of dealer installed options, from the 22" wheels, to Bowtie blackouts, under seat storage, hard folding tonneau cover, driver side grab handle, and I`m sure a few others that I`m missing about now. Told them to not even install the tonneau cover till I can put a coat of either WETS or GTechniq on the rail tops. Just put in the all weather floor mats, then throw me a set of carpeted mats in the bed till I can get it home.

Once I *DO* get it home it`ll get the full IRON-X treatment. Followed by a full taping, then a full buff (as many stages as it needs). Then of course a coating. Haven`t decided on which one yet, have plenty to choose from around here.

[cobrar97]

Yeah... I`d buff and coat that puppy RIGHT AWAY!

Congrats on that puppy fo` sho`.


I ordered a Silverado a week ago, Siren Red tintcoat, crew cab, cocoa/dune heated/cooled leather, 6" steps, sunroof, advanced driver assist, (like it keeps it in the lane when you`re not paying attention) and LOTS of chrome, including 22" wheels, in 4x4 of course.

Told the dealer in no uncertain terms.

Do NOT unwrap it.
Do NOT WASH IT.
Do NOT even LOOK at it till I`m there!

It`ll have a number of dealer installed options, from the 22" wheels, to Bowtie blackouts, under seat storage, hard folding tonneau cover, driver side grab handle, and I`m sure a few others that I`m missing about now. Told them to not even install the tonneau cover till I can put a coat of either WETS or GTechniq on the rail tops. Just put in the all weather floor mats, then throw me a set of carpeted mats in the bed till I can get it home.

Once I *DO* get it home it`ll get the full IRON-X treatment. Followed by a full taping, then a full buff (as many stages as it needs). Then of course a coating. Haven`t decided on which one yet, have plenty to choose from around here.

You sound a lot like me (other than the Chevy part...but no reason we can`t still be detailing friends). You just want it to be as perfect as possible from Day 1 so that years down the road it looks exactly the same. One of the nice things about a NEW vehicle is being able to provide that first detail that makes the vehicle so much different from many others in the future.

I`ll be trying the Kamikaze coating...this is the first time I`ve used it. I`ve just heard so many great things about it; I just had to give it a shot. I just need the dark truck to show up so I can get started.

[cardaddy]

You sound a lot like me (other than the Chevy part...but no reason we can`t still be detailing friends). You just want it to be as perfect as possible from Day 1 so that years down the road it looks exactly the same. One of the nice things about a NEW vehicle is being able to provide that first detail that makes the vehicle so much different from many others in the future.

I`ll be trying the Kamikaze coating...this is the first time I`ve used it. I`ve just heard so many great things about it; I just had to give it a shot. I just need the dark truck to show up so I can get started.

Yeah well... I owned many a Ford during my first 10 years in the towing business. Then I ran across what we call the Ford from Hades and from that point forward I`ve never owned another one. Things like two water pumps inside 19000 miles for instance!

Had a few 302 hotrods in the 70`s as well. Street cars.... one would pull the front wheels off the ground, almost 13:1 compression, .030 over, monster cam, about 5 mpg. LOL

Couldn`t resist the new Silverado after driving one for half a days test drive. That and the heated/cooled leather.



Was talking with CarMomma today about the *other* dealer options that I`ll need to pickup with the truck. That`ll be another $1000.

Have to get splash guards painted body color. Wheels locks on those 22`s. (I can`t believe I`ve waited till darned near 60 to own the largest wheels I`ve ever had on a non commercial vehicle!!!!)
Add carpet mats (over the high tech alll weather ones). Then a bed mat (has oem sprayed bed liner) but I want a mat that has ribs that sit down inside the bed so the top is flat, and non skid. (Has a hard tonneau cover already.) Plus a bed extender to sit under the cover so we can throw stuff in the back and it won`t end up at the front of the bed under the cover. OH... CarMomma wants vent shades (the in track kind) so that`s a given. Can`t forget ceramic tint on the front windows. And of course the hitch cover, Bowtie of course.

Then of course there`s a Diablo tuner, and a leveling kit (for the front) that`ll come fairly soon.

Then if I perhaps get REALLY lucky Alpine makes a new 10" touch screen head unit ($3500 street price) that is nothing short of AMAZING!!!! Which of course means I might as well get a subwoofer and amp. (Kidney for sale.) LMAO

Me thinks thst last part might be pushing it just a weeeeeeee bit.

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[cobrar97]

Was talking with CarMomma today about the *other* dealer options that I`ll need to pickup with the truck. That`ll be another $1000.

Have to get splash guards painted body color. Wheels locks on those 22`s. (I can`t believe I`ve waited till darned near 60 to own the largest wheels I`ve ever had on a non commercial vehicle!!!!)
Add carpet mats (over the high tech alll weather ones). Then a bed mat (has oem sprayed bed liner) but I want a mat that has ribs that sit down inside the bed so the top is flat, and non skid. (Has a hard tonneau cover already.) Plus a bed extender to sit under the cover so we can throw stuff in the back and it won`t end up at the front of the bed under the cover. OH... CarMomma wants vent shades (the in track kind) so that`s a given. Can`t forget ceramic tint on the front windows. And of course the hitch cover, Bowtie of course.

Then of course there`s a Diablo tuner, and a leveling kit (for the front) that`ll come fairly soon.

Then if I perhaps get REALLY lucky Alpine makes a new 10" touch screen head unit ($3500 street price) that is nothing short of AMAZING!!!! Which of course means I might as well get a subwoofer and amp. (Kidney for sale.) LMAO

Me thinks thst last part might be pushing it just a weeeeeeee bit.

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Yea, we`re on the same page.
I have my splash guards and Ford hitch plug (just the rubber version with Ford embossing...I don`t like flashy ones) sitting here, ready to go.
The F150 Limited comes with an awesome carpeted mats that have border stitching that matches the seat...BUT I just can`t have carpeted mats. I`m too OCD and have to sweep the things every day. I`ve always gone with the WeatherTech liners in the past, but they never been a "perfect" fit. I`ve heard nothing but good things about the new Husky X-Act Contour liners (kind of a hybrid mat)...so I`m trying those this time.
I like the bed covers that sit flush with the truck, so I`m going with a BakFlip cover. They make the one that Ford uses and sells, but it`s the lower-model and a lot more that buying direct...so I`m getting the upgraded version for less than the Ford version. Go figure. I will be able to install it myself, and that`s quite ok with me.
Already have the tint work scheduled so I won`t have to wait in line when the vehicle arrives. Last time, I used Llumar ceramic...this time, I`m going with Formula 1 ceramic. Llumar and F1 are the same company, but F1 is the better-level film. We just got an F1 dealer established nearby, so I`m happy about that.
On my current F150, I had gotten a Livernois tune on it. Expensive at the time, but now comes the benefit. When I get the new truck, Livernois will turn it for NO CHARGE. Can`t beat that...nor the bump up to 425hp. When I had my truck last into Ford for a warranty service, they re-programmed the ECM...knocking out my turn programming. It was like driving a slug around until I could get the turn re-installed. They really make a HUGE difference on there turbo engines.
I had forgot about the wheel locks for the 22" wheels...but my truck is garaged in the night and the wife drives it to school (she`s a teacher) in the day. It`s probably pretty safe I`d say.
The F150 comes with a really sweet 700watt Sony system with a subwoofer. Probably child`s play to the audiophile, but for me it lays down the sound...so I won`t be upgrading that. Sound is a whole different world...and expense.

Can`t wait to see some pics of your truck (even if it is a Chevy). That color you`re getting sound make some crazy reflections!