Results 1 to 7 of 7
  1. #1

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Lewistown, PA
    Posts
    44
    Post Thanks / Like
    Can you put Sealers over Cleaner waxes? I know sealers generally aren`t supposed to be put over waxes, but I wasn`t sure if the same applied to cleaner waxes. What about cleaner wax over a sealer? Will the cleaner wax remove the sealer? I`m usually detail in this order:

    1) wash/dry vehicle

    2) polish

    3) cleaner wax

    4) wax



    I never really used many sealers, but after reading so many threads about them, I was thinking about trying sealers out. But I`m confused about the two. IS it basically a choice between using either a sealer or a cleaner wax? Or can a sealer be an added step to my routine? I just don`t want to put a layer of sealer, just to be removed by the cleaner wax.


    Flex 3401 VRG / DeWalt 849, CSS Pads / Collinite Products

    2006 Pontiac GTO , 2001 Dodge Durango R/T, 2002 Pontiac GrandAm

  2. #2
    wannafbody
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    8,145
    Post Thanks / Like
    True polymer sealants-no synthetic waxes should work

  3. #3

    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    2,889
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by s7n7a7k7e
    Can you put Sealers over Cleaner waxes? I know sealers generally aren`t supposed to be put over waxes, but I wasn`t sure if the same applied to cleaner waxes. What about cleaner wax over a sealer? Will the cleaner wax remove the sealer? I`m usually detail in this order:

    1) wash/dry vehicle

    2) polish

    3) cleaner wax

    4) wax



    I never really used many sealers, but after reading so many threads about them, I was thinking about trying sealers out. But I`m confused about the two. IS it basically a choice between using either a sealer or a cleaner wax? Or can a sealer be an added step to my routine? I just don`t want to put a layer of sealer, just to be removed by the cleaner wax.
    If you just polished a cleaner wax is not necessary. Just do an IPA wipe down and apply sealant or wax or both. A cleaner wax is normally used when no polishing is done and you want to remove the old lsp.

  4. #4

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Lewistown, PA
    Posts
    44
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Legacy99
    If you just polished a cleaner wax is not necessary. Just do an IPA wipe down and apply sealant or wax or both. A cleaner wax is normally used when no polishing is done and you want to remove the old lsp.




    But if you use a cleaner wax to remove the old LSP, wouldn`t it remove the old sealer as well? Wouldn`t that also mean that a new sealant couldn`t be put back on since, you just used a cleaner wax on it? Sorry for the barrage of questions. Just trying to get my facts straight, lol.



    :think2


    Flex 3401 VRG / DeWalt 849, CSS Pads / Collinite Products

    2006 Pontiac GTO , 2001 Dodge Durango R/T, 2002 Pontiac GrandAm

  5. #5

    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    127
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by s7n7a7k7e
    But if you use a cleaner wax to remove the old LSP, wouldn`t it remove the old sealer as well? Wouldn`t that also mean that a new sealant couldn`t be put back on since, you just used a cleaner wax on it? Sorry for the barrage of questions. Just trying to get my facts straight, lol.



    :think2


    I`m not an expert, but here`s what I am thinking:



    1) I would presume that a "cleaner wax" would remove at least some or all of the sealant. Its product dependent to some extent.



    2) I wouldn`t put sealant over any type of wax. You can layer wax over a sealant, but to my knowledge, you cannot do the reverse.



    In your routine, even as it stands, I don`t think that you need the cleaner wax. If you have polish residue, you can get rid of it with IPA. Then you would apply a sealant if you`re itching to.

  6. #6

    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    2,889
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by s7n7a7k7e
    But if you use a cleaner wax to remove the old LSP, wouldn`t it remove the old sealer as well? Wouldn`t that also mean that a new sealant couldn`t be put back on since, you just used a cleaner wax on it? Sorry for the barrage of questions. Just trying to get my facts straight, lol.



    :think2
    Yes it will probably remove the sealant too. You may or maynot have some bonding issues with a sealant over a cleaner wax. That`s why it`s best just to do an IPA wipe down before sealing.

  7. #7

    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    NE Ohio
    Posts
    86,984
    Post Thanks / Like
    If I were gonna use a sealant, I`d use a sealant-friendly AIO first.



    If I used a cleaner-wax, I`d top it with a wax.



    Guess I`m just missing the point...why try to mix-and-match basically incompatible approaches :nixweiss



    And yeah, a decent cleaner-wax will "clean off" whatever`s already on the paint, including a sealant. Otherwise it wouldn`t be much of a cleaner-wax IMO.



    If you want to clean your LSP beyond a regular wash, I`d just use Sonus green Ultra-fine clay (very gently).

 

 

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Black Plastic Cleaner & Sealer
    By TimL in forum Car Detailing
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 09-10-2014, 02:09 PM
  2. Which BF sealer to use?
    By jlineman in forum BlackFireWax.com
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 09-27-2012, 08:39 AM
  3. Wheel Sealer`s/ Door Jam Sealer`s
    By 1320Str8_liner in forum Car Detailing
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 05-20-2010, 08:07 PM
  4. Best applicators for cleaner,sealer and glaze and nxt?
    By Kool_ZX3 in forum Car Detailing Product Discussion
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 05-07-2005, 10:40 PM
  5. Wax VS Sealer? What do I use?
    By imported_Mighty HD in forum Car Detailing
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 02-26-2005, 10:08 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •