creating depth and wetness

[widyhs]

Hi there I am a regular user of autopia and have come across many discussions on nuba over sealant. I just recently bought a black s550 and went through with menz nano on pc affter claying. The car was treated to swisvax cleaner fluid before applying concorso.



I noticed the car has depth but lacking in wetness. There was no shimmer and slickness to the paint. So I took out my Souveran paste wax and applied it on the body. It is showing better depth but still lacking in wtness. Put next to a black 3 years old bimmer, the bimmer looked like it is a darker black with better reflection even though there are fine swirls on the bimmer.



So, today I found out that topping a sealant over wax will give the paint a pop. I did tried with a metallic car and it does pop the silver speckles. Will the same idea work on a flat black paint?



TIA for the recommendations. I was thinking Jetseal over either Swissvax Concorso or Souveran cleaned off by Souveran liquid.

[qwertydude]

Flat black? seriously the only way to make that shine is to spray clearcoat on it. But it`s flat for a reason. A good quality cleaner wax can give it a decent semigloss though.

[mborner]

So, today I found out that topping a sealant over wax will give the paint a pop. I did tried with a metallic car and it does pop the silver speckles. Will the same idea work on a flat black paint?

What does "topping a sealant over wax" mean? Topping a sealant means you applied the sealant first. But, then you said "sealant over wax" which means you applied the wax first??? Just a little confused.

Generally, applying a nuba "on top of" a coat of sealant works very well. However, the same can`t be said for the other way around. Applying the nuba first, then applying a coat of sealant usually ends up as one big streaky mess as the sealant will refuse to bond the the nuba. Of course, there are a few exceptions to this rule.

[imported_sal329]

Danase Wet Glaze adds a nice wet look, topped with Duragloss 111 or Ultima Paint Guard Plus

[widyhs]

What does "topping a sealant over wax" mean? Topping a sealant means you applied the sealant first. But, then you said "sealant over wax" which means you applied the wax first??? Just a little confused.

Generally, applying a nuba "on top of" a coat of sealant works very well. However, the same can`t be said for the other way around. Applying the nuba first, then applying a coat of sealant usually ends up as one big streaky mess as the sealant will refuse to bond the the nuba. Of course, there are a few exceptions to this rule.

Sorry, I meant wax on top of sealant. I was thinking of stripping off the wax and reapply with sealant first. Will sealant by itself create the shine that is normally seen on metallic cars? Dont feel like going over the entire process if the results are not going to be significantly better.

[widyhs]

Danase Wet Glaze adds a nice wet look, topped with Duragloss 111 or Ultima Paint Guard Plus

Is that a sealant or scracth filling glaze, topped with sealant?

[imported_sal329]

DWG has no fillers, it adds a great wet look, it has a little protection to it. You can use it below or on top of sealants or waxes. There was a pic on here somewhere with a gray car with DWG and UPGP a few layers of each I believe and it looked great. You have Swissvax Im sure DWG then the Swissvax would look great, or you can top the Swissvax with DWG or sandwich the Swissvax with DWG.

[widyhs]

I will try that out and post a before and after pic. Thx

[Bigpoppa3346]

Keep in mind that black isn`t just black, it`s look will vary across certain manufacturers. BMW black will have a very different look than say, Corvette black (I know that isn`t what we are dealing with here, but trying to make a point).

[rjom]

How many washes would DWG last through? I heard it disappeared quickly, and was used mostly for show.

[wascallyrabbit]

it`ll last one or two washes if used on top of your lsp. i layer mine under the lsp and have better results this way. for a show i would consider putting a layer on top.

[imported_sal329]

DWG does not last too long as an LSP that is why I normally use it under a sealant or wax.

[DM101]

Here is what I would do. Start over. (1) Use Men polish PO85RD with a finihing pad.

(2) Use a glaze RMG, Meg #7, or Danses wet glaze X 2....... (3) Pin. Sover. X 2 Apply to whole car prior to removing.



Prior to starting take 1 oz. of Opti inst. det OID put in a 16 oz prayer and fill it 1/2 full with water. Place in frezzer Without sprayer till frozen. Take it out and fill the rest of the way with water. Put in microwave for 30-40 seconds. Insert spray head in bottle. Shake you`ll have a cold mix of OID.



Use this to help remove wax by misting surface.



If this doesn`t work nothing will. I know you think I`m nuts, thats ok.....

[Legacy]

it`ll last one or two washes if used on top of your lsp. i layer mine under the lsp and have better results this way. for a show i would consider putting a layer on top.

Not to hi-jack this thread, but if I had 1 coat of DWG over a freshly polished paint and then applied UPGPx2 and then DWG over the UPGP, how would I know when the last coat of DWG has worn out? By that I mean the UPGP and DWG appearance is about the same the the beading when wet is about the same. When the DWG truly wears out wouldn`t the UPGP still be beading water? I so, how can you tell if the UPGP or the DWG is beading the water? This has always been on my mind when reading other posts saying that the LSP has worn out. If only clean paint is under the LSP I can see how you would be able to tell, but if you have a sealant or glaze under the LSP would that not give you protection and appearance?

[DM101]

"glaze under the LSP would that not give you protection and appearance?" Yes...It would. PO85RD, RMG, PSouveran is a winner.