Thinking I should get rid of the PC for a rotary

**justinschmidt1** · 05-02-2008, 10:42 PM

Well I got my PC and I dont think im gonna be happy with it.

It just takes way too long to remove scratches or anything really.

Im thinking I might try and get my hands on a rotary so I can actually do some paint correction in a reasonable amount fo time.

Whats a good/cheap rotary?

**BigAl3** · 05-03-2008, 12:11 AM

keep the PC, you can use it for applying lps`s/glazes, and doing carpets as well. having the rotary & PC both compliment each other, IMO...

save your money (unless you have enough now) and get a reputable/high quality rotary (makita, dewalt, hitachi, etc)...

**scary bill** · 05-03-2008, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by BigAl3

keep the PC, you can use it for applying lps`s/glazes, and doing carpets as well. having the rotary & PC both compliment each other, IMO...

save your money (unless you have enough now) and get a reputable/high quality rotary (makita, dewalt, hitachi, etc)...

+1

I kept my PC after I got my rotary. It makes putting on a coat wax/glaze/AIO really fast and easy. I can put these on way thinner and way more even and still save time. It is wort keeping. :buffing:

**KnuckleBuckett** · 05-03-2008, 06:48 AM

PC always has its uses. BigAl3 mentioned a couple. I use mine for agitating carpet and floormats. Miracle worker!

I also have a Flex now and am categorically happier with it for external uses.

**abbeysdad** · 05-03-2008, 07:53 AM

Well deep scratches aren`t coming out easy (or at all) with a DA polisher, but how often are you gonna have deep scratches? For routine polishing and LSP application, the PC rules - I`d have little use for a rotary on my ride (but use the PC all the time) - now my wife`s car cries for a rotary or new paint!

**Accumulator** · 05-03-2008, 11:54 AM

justinschmidt1- Yeah, keep the PC if you get a rotary. Not everyone can finish out 100% with a rotary (I can`t).

I don`t use the rotaries all *that* much...mainly just for *very* infrequent correction on the Audis. They *are* handy for RIDS (with 4" pads) for spot-correcting RIDS though. But I really don`t need it for the Mazda, and the last RIDS I removed from the Denali XL I did via PC/4".

If you haven`t tried 4" pads with the PC, you might oughta give `em a shot. They don`t turn it into a rotary or anything like that, but they *do* allow it to work *much* more aggressively.

**justinschmidt1** · 05-03-2008, 06:10 PM

Thanks man...I think im gonna try some 4 inch pads....

or just realize that deep scratches arent coming out

**rebelde33** · 05-03-2008, 06:20 PM

You could also try using more aggressive pads and then remove any marring with a less aggressing one.

**justinschmidt1** · 05-04-2008, 02:18 AM

Originally Posted by rebelde33

You could also try using more aggressive pads and then remove any marring with a less aggressing one.

How much more aggressive can I get?

Im using yellow pad with ssr3

What would be propor technique when trying to remove scratches?

I always feel like pushing harder on the highest speed would provide the best cut.....but its probably better to just go slow and let the polish do the work right?

**TTWAGN** · 05-04-2008, 03:16 AM

4inch pads combined with something like Meguiars M105 should be able to remove any scratch rather quickly.

Not as quick as a rotary but if all your cars are in good condition then a PC can do nearly anything.

**backwoods_lex** · 05-04-2008, 10:42 AM

I just picked up a rotary for the first time a week ago and was impressed by the difference. It cleared up hard black paint (that I couldn`t with the PC) super quick. But I would definitely keep the PC.

Be careful with the 4" pads if you use them. I`ve gotten paint very hot with them in the past (anyone else ever seen a 4" pad steam when it is 70 degrees outside?).

**JonP** · 05-04-2008, 11:10 AM

4" pad, making it steam,

your doing something wrong. I never had that happen to me ever. Keep practicing and soon you`ll master the power of the rotary.:2thumbs:

**DSVWGLI** · 05-04-2008, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by justinschmidt1

How much more aggressive can I get?

Im using yellow pad with ssr3

What would be propor technique when trying to remove scratches?

I always feel like pushing harder on the highest speed would provide the best cut.....but its probably better to just go slow and let the polish do the work right?

When I use to use the PC for correction work I used an LC 6" yellow pad with SSR3 and would push hard enough to almost bog the PC. That`s the only way to get the most out of a PC. I have done some major correction work with this technique, which I have posted on Autopia. Having said that, the PC can`t hold a candle to a rotary for correction or finishing, IMO.

**backwoods_lex** · 05-04-2008, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by JonP

4" pad, making it steam,

your doing something wrong. I never had that happen to me ever. Keep practicing and soon you`ll master the power of the rotary.:2thumbs:

Yep, low dollar dealer work. A loaded 4" pad at speed six will steam up. Speed six also wears out the velcro backing to 4" pads much faster. I don`t reccomend it, but I feel comfortable enough with it based on experience. But all that will be gone when I get more practice with the rotary.

**justinschmidt1** · 05-04-2008, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by DSVWGLI

When I use to use the PC for correction work I used an LC 6" yellow pad with SSR3 and would push hard enough to almost bog the PC. That`s the only way to get the most out of a PC. I have done some major correction work with this technique, which I have posted on Autopia. Having said that, the PC can`t hold a candle to a rotary for correction or finishing, IMO.

Yea...I bet...this is why I think a rotary would be a good investment since I could probably go over a car with ssr3 and remove all the light scratches and stuff in like 1/10 the time it takes with the PC if the PC will remove them at all