I have been using the DAS pads since I caught the detailing bug back in June 07. I recently received my order of the Lake Country CCS 6.5" Pads, so I decided to do a close comparison between the two brands by touch and by putting them to use with my UDM using SFX 2 and 3. What I found is that the DAS pads are pretty much in between the LC pads in terms of abrasiveness. This is great because having both brands gives you a very wide selection to work with. The only pad I did not test was the LC green pad, which the chart in the LC site puts it in between the white and orange pad. My hunch is that in relation to the DAS pads, it falls somewhere between the LC white pad and the DAS orange pad. In "The Detailing handbook" (Foam Pad Chart) they equate the DAS orange pad to the LC orange pad and the DAS green pad to the LC white pad, which I did not find to be the case. Here is a chart I made.