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    I know that carnauba waxes can mute the flakes on metallic paint. Which Carnauba wax would you say has less of a muting effect? I`ve read that 845 is a good choice here.

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    ive heard p21s does well with metallic flake

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    Pinnacle SSII is nice, however, its not a pure nuba, some polymers apparently. Durability anywhere from 2-4 weeks.

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    SSII and DP MaxWax are good with flakes. Could be the same thing for all I know.

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    Pinnacle Sig Series II

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    Quote Originally Posted by detaildoc
    I know that carnauba waxes can mute the flakes on metallic paint.




    I thought it was sealants that muted flake?

    I have never noticed it with a nuba

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRack
    Pinnacle Sig Series II


    Yup. It makes metallics glow but man does the durability suck

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    This is with a fresh application of Liquid Sauveran - no muted flake....




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    I don`t notice any muting of Audi or Mazda silver`s flakes with Meguiar`s #16. My wife didn`t think Souveran (paste) muted the Audi flake either, and I don`t see it muting the metallic on the Jag. Didn`t see any muting with P21s.



    Collinite 476S seems to *really* mute the flake on some paints, but not on others :nixweiss Doesn`t do it much at all on the Pewter Blazer, but does it a lot more on the metallic carbon Yukon and the Audi.

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    I really haven`t seen a carnauba mute metallics except Collinte 476s.



    I really like the paste version of 3M Perfect-It III Show Car Wax as well as One Grand Blitz Wax. They are 2 excellent waxes that get no real play here. They do not mute flakes. I just used Blitz on my father`s new 328xi coupe.



    A fabulous liquid carnauba goes to Clearkote Carnuaba Moose. Easily one of the deepest, liquid, glass-like looks I have seen that literally seems to darken paint. That in conjunction with Souveran Paste on top is a real knock out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spilchy
    ..I really like the paste version of 3M Perfect-It III Show Car Wax..


    Ah, yeah, that`s another one that`s nice on metallics :xyxthumbs Well, at least the older version was, haven`t tried the new formulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spilchy
    ...I really like the paste version of 3M Perfect-It III Show Car Wax as well as One Grand Blitz Wax. They are 2 excellent waxes that get no real play here. They do not mute flakes. I just used Blitz on my father`s new 328xi coupe.


    I agree with you about Blitz, although it is not popular any more it is still a damned good wax

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    I’m stuck on P21s for all (multiple coats) finishes, but it seems to really make the metallic jump in any light on the ‘red-metallic’ in the AMG ‘exclusive’ paintwork on the Merc. It’s as if the metallic was plugged in!

    I tend to dissect why there’s more metallic jump/brilliance on some vehicles than others and I believe it relates to how much metallic is in the paint finish. The Ridgeline metallic is scarce and large and I don’t feel the brilliance is as strong as the Merc which is packed with metallic and infinitesimal, no matter what product I use.



    I agree whole-heartedly with Spilchy and the 3M Perfect-It III Show Car Wax, (including the whole line of Perfect-It). The One Grand product line is pretty good as well. Been a long time since I used their wax since I was introduced to the magic of P21s in a 4 week/stage application.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Accumulator
    Ah, yeah, that`s another one that`s nice on metallics :xyxthumbs Well, at least the older version was, haven`t tried the new formulation.


    I have a couple of unused pre-VOC tins lying around so I wouldn`t have to try the new version Love that pineapple smell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spilchy
    I have a couple of unused pre-VOC tins lying around so I wouldn`t have to try the new version ...


    Me too



    All the talk about silicones in LSPs causing problems down the road had me wondering about the "3M A.S.F (Acrylic Silicone Fluoropolymer)" stuff that`s in it (I`m assuming your cans are the version with this printed on the bottom label), but after having used it on the A8, I`ve had paintwork done with zero issues.



    Saitlysins- Yeah, I still reach for my stockpiled PI-III RC 05933 and MG 05937 more often than all my other abrasives combined.

 

 
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