When Power Gloss on cutting pad is not cutting it ...

**ZoranC** · 05-13-2007, 02:37 AM

Today I tried to address some horrible scratches on black Supra. They were on the driver side all going in same direction resembling kind of swirls one would get from either a rotating wash or brush with wire edges exposed.

I have started by trying to use totary (Metabo PE12-175) at 1500rpm, Danase 5" heavy polishing (green) pad and some SIP 3.01. That didn`t do anything. Then I raised that to SIP 3.01 with Meguiar`s 6" cutting pad (W7006) and LC 6.5" CCS cutting pad (yellow) from CMA. Still nothing. Then I tried Power Gloss with same pads. Still next to nothing. Then I tried M84 with same pads. Some improvement but scratches still mainly intact. I was reaching a point where I was thinking I will have to live with them.

At that point in time I started thinking is there anything else left to try. I had some HiTec samples with me but decided to leave it for later. I had in front of me Cyclo 4" yellow scrubbing pads (I forgot my Cyclo wool pads at home) but that thing looked vicious. Still I was seriously tempted by them. However, I couldn`t bring myself to do it. At that point in time I, for some reason, reached for Cyclo`s yellow cutting pads and slapped them on my Cyclo even though everybody keeps saying rotary is stronger, so if you can`t take them out with rotary you shouldn`t be able to take it out with Cyclo.

Still I put some M84 on them and went to town with it and guess what? That thing was knocking down those scratches like nothing and after third pass majority of them was gone!

Now explain this to me, how is that possible? I thought it shouldn`t have been. Yet it happened.

Unless my Metabo was not working at full strength (it didn`t occur to me to try same pads and chemicals with different rotary) how Cyclo could have ended up more efficient?

**Thomas Dekany** · 05-13-2007, 06:37 AM

ssr3 will cut it.

**gmblack3** · 05-13-2007, 07:37 AM

You need to try some of the edge wool my friend. I have the black (heavy cut) and green (med cut) wool, using with the edge system and the metabo its very smooth and easy to use. The presta polishes (1500) work very nice with the wool.

**rkf76** · 05-13-2007, 08:31 AM

Always progress w/stronger polish before going to stronger pad.

**klnyc** · 05-13-2007, 09:05 AM

XMT 3 w/twisted wool pad will knock it out.

Hell even with HTEC w/wool pad, is may do the job...

**ZoranC** · 05-13-2007, 02:21 PM

Those are all very good and very valid advices and as I mentioned I did contemplate using more aggressive polish I did have at hand and I would have tried wool if I had it at hand.

However, point of my question was why Cyclo was able to knock something down that Metabo was not while using same polishes? Are Cyclo`s yellow cutting pads more aggressive that what I used on Metabo? Could it be that Cyclo can be more aggressive than rotary while using same pressure? Or my Metabo was not working at full strength? I am really curious now.

**SpoiledMan** · 05-13-2007, 02:51 PM

I have and have used the yellow cutting pads but not the scrubbing pads. Do you have any pictures of the paint before or after?

**ZoranC** · 05-13-2007, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by SpoiledMan

I have and have used the yellow cutting pads but not the scrubbing pads. Do you have any pictures of the paint before or after?

I don`t have pics of before, I am now kicking myself for not taking them. I did not take afters as job was not complete (was rushing elsewhere so didn`t have time for passes with finishing polish). Still, I thought you saw those scratches few weeks ago. In any case, OctaneGuy can testify how bad scratches were.

As mentioned I ended up not using scrubbing pads, but just "regular" Cyclo yellow cutting pads that you can see here.

I still can not believe Cyclo knocked down for me what Metabo PE12-175 did not.