#16 and CMW in a head to head competition

[ALAN81]

Simple answer in the winter use #16 in the summer use CMW best of BOTH worlds

[Scottwax]

I know none of you will believe this, but the Escalade I used CMW on was last waxed in October of 2003, when he first got it....VM/CMW was what I used. It has beaded the entire time. Reasonable slickness too. Always washed with QEW and I think in all that time, it went through a conveyer car wash once, right after we had snow and I was buried in work. I QDed it a few times, maybe every two months or so. The Escalade was a demo with about 2000 miles on it and the customer specified no dealer prep be done since he was having me wax it immediately, so as far as both he and I know, it wasn`t treated with a sealant either.



The main problem with it beading so long, for whatever reason, is that is why he waited a full year to have it waxed again. Every time I would ask him, he`d say "It beads when it rains and looks great, we can wait a while longer."



However, I have noticed that Tahoes, Suburbans and Escalades seem to bead for a very long time, much longer than you would expect. I am in no way ready to say CMW will protect for a full year, so please don`t think I am suggesting it does. All I know is this particular Escalade was not waxed for slightly more than a year and beaded the entire time.



:nixweiss

[imported_COBRyan]

I used CMW on a Vette for a co-worker and it looked GORGEOUS. The car looked stunning and was very slick to the touch. Durability is not an issue with him since I will be detailing it once a month anyway.

[Accumulator]

Originally posted by JDookie

Not trying to hijack this thread or anything but do the pads on a cyclo oscillate or spin?

That`s a good question...and one that we`ve discussed before on other threads without reaching an absolute conclusion. Someday, somebody will have to ask Steve at CycloToolMakers about it and get the *real* answer.



The heads don`t move in a truly "random" manner quite like the PC, they are directly gear driven (as per the diagram of the machine`s innards, I haven`t actually pulled one apart to see this first-hand). But the heads also spin freely in their mounting bosses, so it`s sorta like you have two different spins going on simultaneously which end up making for a fairly random polishing action.



I know that`s a pretty lousy explanation, so if anybody has a better one feel free to post it.

[Scottwax]

George-while the cyclo heads to seem to spin and oscillate at the same time, they do lay down a pattern very similar to the PC.

[HotRodGuy]

awesome test, am very eager to see the results Scott

[JasonD]

So it`s like having a twin head PC?

[Corey Bit Spank]

#16`s durability is going to be hard to beat, in my experience

[Scottwax]

Originally posted by JDookie

So it`s like having a twin head PC?

A twin head PC that doesn`t bog down under pressure. You try to one hand a cyclo and it will pull itself around if you aren`t expecting it.



Corey-yeah, #16 is pretty tough. Seems to really hold its appearance too.

[Corey Bit Spank]

I have #16 on my car for the winter (the next time I wash I`m going to put on another coat). I just went to the store and the snow just kind of slid off the car

[JasonD]

Originally posted by Scottwax

A twin head PC that doesn`t bog down under pressure. You try to one hand a cyclo and it will pull itself around if you aren`t expecting it.



Corey-yeah, #16 is pretty tough. Seems to really hold its appearance too.

This is a bit off topic so I have started an entirely new thread for it.

[Accumulator]

Originally posted by Scottwax

while the cyclo heads to seem to spin and oscillate at the same time, they do lay down a pattern very similar to the PC.

Yeah they do...certainly not a circular pattern like with a rotary. Or rather, they lay down a pattern like a PC *that`s not being leaned on much*



I`ll take this to the new Cyclo-related thread in "Detailing"...