Souveran or P21S

**dlw** · 07-30-2004, 05:56 PM

After 2 years of use from my original jar of Pinnacle Souveran, it`s time to replenish, but I have an itch to try P21S. Which one should I get, money is not the biggest factor, although I wouldn`t mind saving the price difference between the two, but not at the expense of the best look I can get.

**Dtail** · 07-30-2004, 06:13 PM

i would say get p21s since you`ve tried PS already. P21s won`t dissappoint you. Also, at this time, you should be able to judge betwwen the two product which one you prefer.

**ncal** · 07-30-2004, 06:25 PM

There`s a ton of threads and boils down to PS having a slight edge P21S on black or other very dark colors. Personally, P21S is fine for me and performs excellently. Give it a try I say and see if you like the results just as much.

**SilverLexus** · 07-31-2004, 08:54 AM

What color is your vehicle?

I find P21S may be better than Souveran on light colored cars and about the same on dark.

**imported_NHBFAN** · 07-31-2004, 10:32 AM

S100

**volvoguy** · 07-31-2004, 11:37 AM

Dont forget natty`s!! For the price of PS you could get Natty`s and P21S

**bigpoppa** · 07-31-2004, 11:46 AM

Depends on the color, Souveran, I have found to be better on dark colors. On light colors, P21s is a bit "brighter" and Souveran a bit "richer." I also think Souveran is a little bit easier to use in both application and removal than P21s.

Personally, if I were buying one or the other, I`d buy Souveran again.

**membim** · 08-02-2004, 12:58 PM

They are both great waxes. I think Natty`s kinda bridges the gap between them. And for $15, you can`t beat it. For my black car, Souveran will probably always be king!

**imported_Intermezzo** · 08-02-2004, 01:13 PM

Souveran may be a tad better looking, but P21S repels dust better, has slightly better durability and stays cleaner after a rainstorm. Those factors pretty much settle it for me...

**TortoiseAWD** · 08-02-2004, 01:36 PM

dlw,

I have some S100 on hand if you want to give it a try. FYI, in the past I`ve picked up both S100 wax and the paint cleanser at the Harley dealership at 73rd and L.

Also, I have both Natty`s and #16 in my box-o-stuff. Just let me know what you want to experiment with, and you`re welcome to it.

Tort

**Blk_Mach** · 08-02-2004, 02:16 PM

i have both...there both very easy ......the p21s makes my black mach look like black glass...the souveran..makes it look deep and rich..depends on what look you like....i know when i use p21s the high reflectivness gets more attention on the streets

both great waxes!...when my souveran is gone..i plan to use the container for p21s

**membim** · 08-03-2004, 01:59 PM

Another note. I have hosed off dead bugs with Natty`s and P21S. You can`t do that with Souveran. The Natty`s has even less dust attraction and better self cleaning ability than P21S.

**SilverLexus** · 08-03-2004, 04:04 PM

"The Natty`s has even less dust attraction and better self cleaning ability than P21S."

I`m not so sure about this even though Natty`s is a good product. My P21S coat attracts very little dust...

**imported_series1** · 08-03-2004, 04:23 PM

I just recieved some nattys along with vanilla moose and ex-p today from specialtymotoring.com today. I have p21s and I just ordered some souveran and #16 from autopia! I will probably post somethin on everything once I`ve tried all the new stuff. As for p21s I don`t get any dust with 3 coats of it over aio and sgx2 and it`s long lasting. For dark colors it gives me more depth and for light colors it gives a glow.