Heh heh, who would`ve thought I`d get mentioned twice in a thread about Pro Coatings?!?
Heh heh, I`d hate to try stripping the ones in M205 well enough for a Coating, even if others do find it easy-peasy.Originally Posted by Stokdgs
Heh heh, who would`ve thought I`d get mentioned twice in a thread about Pro Coatings?!?
Heh heh, I`d hate to try stripping the ones in M205 well enough for a Coating, even if others do find it easy-peasy.Originally Posted by Stokdgs
Here`s my opinion of Meguiars. They are a well known company but take just about any of their products and you can find a comparable product that`s better from a different manufacturer. Ultimate compound and polish were supposed to be groundbreaking. Griots compounds and polishes are easier to work with and remove. For an OTC product line, I`d pick Mothers or Griots over Meguiars.
That may be true but what I was getting at is that a "pro" coating to me would be one that requires authorization to purchase and apply. Most of these coatings available to the average consumer would fall into the consumer/prosumer.
Here is another example for you, Cquartz UK 3.0 and TiO2 are both sold in 100ml bottles that are labeled as "Pro Size". We all know that these are prosumer coatings. And yes they rival professional grade coatings.
How about a company like Sonax, P&S or Meguiar`s who only have one coating sold to both the consumer and professional?
I think you see where I am going.
If they only came in a better package than those lotion bottles which look terrible at dispensing product. I get it in that they want to stick with their Dr. theme.
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This has been a great discussion so far.
I have detailed and corrected paint on hundreds of cars over the past 20 years since Ive been in and out of the hobby.
I have always used prosumer grade products and have had great results. I simply have not taken it to the next step where I open my own shop and do it full time, it has always been something I do for fun, family, side money, word of mouth etc.
If I`m at a car show and see a GREAT car with a poor finish, I`ll chat it up with the owner and go that route.
Basically I have a decent full time job and I have never put detailing completely first where it is a "true" business, but the thought has crossed my mind. And if I go pro, just wondering about products that I should be using or even what exists as a PRO level product, so I`m taken seriously by prospective clients etc.
In my area there is a pro detailer who is certified by IGL. I drive by his shop on a regular basis and I`m guessing that for every time they are open there is almost an equal amount of days that they are closed. Not sure they really make that much money after paying rent.
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Anytime I see Pro on a bottle of anything that is available to consumers I just think marketing scheme.
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100% always comes from a position of love... we all love our Accumulator - and I`m one of his biggest fans.
We must speak the truth, in our homes in our workplace and especially in this forum... there is so much BS in this world. This overreacted virus has changed me.... for better or worse I have yet to decide.
Truth is now the forefront of my thoughts... i`ll leave you with an Emily Dickinson quote
Tell all the truth but tell it slant —
Success in Circuit lies
Too bright for our infirm Delight
The Truth`s superb surprise
As Lightning to the Children eased
With explanation kind
The Truth must dazzle gradually
Or every man be blind —
THE POEMS OF EMILY DICKINSON: READING EDITION, The Belknap Press of Harvard University Press, Copyright © Copyright © 1914
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I have had wonderful results with Optimum when they had the more reasonable priced Opti-Coat. Just loved the looks of it on my black extremely soft G35. Just looked gorgeous every time I washed the car. I had to look back at her twice it was so stunning, I couldn`t believe I had prepped and applied this product the very first time. If I had known they were going to go bonkers on the price I would have ordered more syringes and kept them in a vacuum sealed bag. Ever since then I have been wandering in the desert hoping for another Opti-Coat like product.
The car was still stunning the day I sold it years later.
Sorry for the rant.
not sure if some people will like what I am going to say about car products....I use to play golf two times a week...always went online to try to fine out what golf ball was best for me...like car products golf ball company`s has a golf ball that goes farther then any other ball...goes higher...goes lower...stops on a dime on the green...etc...then I seen my playing partners go looking for golf balls in the woods...lakes...and sure as crap they hit that ball and wow it goes so far...stops on the green...so then I realized it doesn`t matter what you pay for a ball an old one found in the lake was just as good...its like car care products...one better to use because it shines better...more glossy...last for ten years..etc...I am an old timer always have my car`s looking the best...years ago we just had wax..and the cars looked great...no buffers...just hand wax...now we have have sealants...coatings...special wax...just sio2..and then uber SIO2...both made by the same company...also there`s Gyeon...on and on...I feel sorry for newbie trying to figure out what to use...LOL I just ordered WFG ceramic booster...LOL now I can throw out my old SIO2 silica spray
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Just as a data point, I applied CQuartz UK 2.0 (not 3.0) to my daughter`s car over 2.5 years ago. She lives in Oklahoma where the weather isn`t all that harsh and the car sits in a garage at both home and work. The only attention it gets is a good washing like I taught her and a wipe down with Ech20 about once every 6~8 weeks. The coating actually seems to be holding up better than a 1.5 year application of CQUK 3.0 on my wife`s car, and the swirls are minimal, probably due to the infrequent washes.
This is by no means the norm, but it is actually possible! I fully expected to detail the car when she visited this summer, but really didn`t see the need.
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A golf ball’s performance does degrade the longer it sits in the lake. Lot’s of comparisons have shown that.
Two thoughts occur to me:
1) I`ve *dramatically* improved some of my results by switching to "better" products in a few categories. E.g., I can`t wash marring-free (even with my technique) using lower-quality shampoos. The diff was absolutely night/day.
In other cases (especially LSPs), any diffs were immaterial at best. E.g., the "Expert Detailer" who thought a car I did with 476S was wearing Dodo Juice because "nothing else looks quite like that!" Wrong wrong wrong...he wouldn`t believe it was Collinite even after I told him I was the guy who applied it
2) While I can see the (supposed ) rationale, I don`t like that I can`t buy "Pro" products.
I only coat things like wheels. Used to be I could get a coating that`d last many years (OptiCoat V1.0), but now such stuff is only available to Pros If I`m only gonna get a year or two, I`d rather just apply FK1000P a few times instead.
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