I’ve read your post on premier.... what’s #1?
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Overcoat I believe
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There are too many products, that`s the problem, When I got into detailing I was starry eyed and wanted to keep up with the jones when it came to new products. I have a bottle of Overcoat *somewhere* that I`ve never even used. And I know I have multiple bottles of probably similarly priced stuff that I never used that I don`t even remember buying. The person`s car I used Viking Spritz on wouldn`t see a difference between that and the TW probably (white car though) I used an $80 product so my brain`s telling me it has to be better. And while I`m sure it probably is, I`d also probably need a glossmeter machine to show me there`s a difference unless I was starring at it uber close up. And I don`t know, but to me if I need a machine like a glossmeter or something so I can know a product`s better. Maybe I should be looking at other products.
That said, I`ll always have an impossible time not buying hand made craft beer like detailing stuff. Just now I`m going to go out and try this TW and give companies I`ve been programmed to hate certain companies. Armor All`s where I refuse to ever give in.
You have to draw the line somewhere...
Yep, Overcoat. It lasts just as long but has an edge in gloss, especially on initial application. I now own a gloss meter and this fall will try to put numbers to all the toppers I own. It may take some time but it should prove interesting.
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JUNEBUG!!!
it is soooo nice to hear from you again. Last I remember, you were power-wash cleaning house exteriors as supplemental income to your detailing business, with less physical work.
Sorry about your back. You seem to join a fraternity of long-time detailers who have suffered with that "occupational hazard".
You were THE ONE who "liked" my post on Bio-Kleen`s Black Streak RV Cleaner (good stuff!):
https://www.autopia.org/forums/boat-...k-remover.html
Ha! I’m into trying every craft beer as well, because I don’t like thinking that I missed out on something really good, but at the same time I had no problem drinking PBR or well liquor depending on the circumstances.
Similarly, I have no issues trying out TW. My brother got me a TW ICE kit with a detail bag many years ago when I got my TSX. And it was about 3-4 years ago when I started playing around more than just the car wash and liquid wax that led to my interest in getting back to keeping my car nice. I liked some of those early ICE products and really liked the newer ICE spray wax when I bought it. Despite the old hard shell crap I used 20 years ago as a teenager to keep my car “immaculate” (albeit with terrible washing and drying habits), I always kept a warm spot in my heart for TW because it’s what I started with... plus the cool green, transparent plastic shell top that you could store the applicator in.
As for Armorall, I used to slather the extra glossy stuff over my entire 1989 Honda Accord interior weekly. I got so many compliments while driving friends around to parties, including from the ladies... I thought the stuff was the best. It actually took me awhile when I got back into detailing to accept the fact that greasy, glossy vinyl may not be so cool as a 30 year old adult in the 2000’s. All those high school comments in the 1990’s were ingrained in my memory. Nonetheless, I have since found many natural looking protectants that I, and my wife prefer much more.
Anyways, no shame in using TW.
And note for all:
if I did this as a business I doubt I’d use any boutique products for business needs. Most consumers would be WOW’d with the polish and would need just something to protect it.
The way I see it is the 500 ml bottle of cosmic I bought for $100 will give me at least 24 coats. If I over do at 10 apps a year (I will) it be about $4 a month. With soap and other chemicals I use I’ll spend less than $20 a month maintaining the looks of my car. I use to spend $60 a month tunnel washing.
Now I enjoy maintaining my car as pristine as I can and SAVING money on my hobby so I am willing to spend 80% more for 30% more for performance.
We need to keep proper perspective on how products are used, for hobby or business.
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I`ve run a 5 month pure durability test of Meguiar`s HCW against Seal N Shine on the other test car:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27ATvVZ9Xxk
Overall pretty good results from both products on the middle sections of the doors compared to the unprotected control. Top portion of the doors are showing a lot of weathering.
My Update:
It`s been almost a month since I applied the ICE Seal N Shine to the Camaro. Since then it has been rained on (seemingly endlessly), driven in the rain, minor bird droppings etc. All I have done since applying it is to use the ICE Spray Detailer to get rid of a few stubborn streaks a few days after application and a weekly wash with Meguiar`s Hyperwash.
I washed it again this morning and I WAS going to reapply the SNS, just because, but I ended up not reapplying it ....
The water beading is still very strong (during the rinse), even on the sides behind the tires where the spray hits while driving, it`s like the stuff is unaffected by the constant spray. "Flood" rinsing the car leaves it almost completely dry, which means less wiping and less wringing of the drying microfiber.
The `look` is still there, highly glossy and reflective (I know, that has more to do with the prep than the LSP), but the water beading is still so strong that I didn`t even bother to give it a booster application - "just to keep it at 100%."
I ended up buying out my Walmart I`m so impressed with this stuff.
For 6 bucks this stuff is a no brainer. I put it on my mail box and my Traeger today just for the heck of it
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Currently available on the ‘zon as add on for $4.80 FYI.
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