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    Re: Could this be TURTLE WAX??!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Swanicyouth View Post
    I’d have to respectfully disagree. I’d call it 200% smoke and mirrors. Most of these “boutique” companies have been making overblown claims for years selling us the same stuff over and over again in different bottles.

    We’ve all been bent over and taken for a ride so many times we just accept it as business as usual. That’s why those of us that have been here for years have shelves and shelves full of products and we only use the same core few that actually meet (and rarely exceed) the actual claims the manufacturer makes or are barely any different than the last product we bought.

    Very rarely does anyone bring anything new, improved, or unique to this market. And, when someone actually does; what do the rest of these companies do? Go out and copy it to the best of their ability.

    How many coatings out there that claim “up to 2 years” that barely last 6 mos? How many 15 & 21mm polishers are out there that happen to have the same exact throw/shape/& basic design as Rupes? You ever see an 18mm throw polisher? Nope. And you never will. Too easy to copy what’s already been done.

    So now something comes out that seems to destroy everything else like it and it costs $6. I can only lol and cheer them on.
    Sounds good. Hopefully this forum is your only place to vent for the last year and you at least remain cheerful outside of here. Doesn’t seem like you have much to add but plenty of criticism. Reminds me of some people I work with.

    Oh, and so sorry about your shelf.

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    Re: Could this be TURTLE WAX??!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Swanicyouth View Post
    I’d have to respectfully disagree. I’d call it 200% smoke and mirrors. Most of these “boutique” companies have been making overblown claims for years selling us the same stuff over and over again in different bottles.

    We’ve all been bent over and taken for a ride so many times we just accept it as business as usual. That’s why those of us that have been here for years have shelves and shelves full of products and we only use the same core few that actually meet (and rarely exceed) the actual claims the manufacturer makes or are barely any different than the last product we bought.

    Very rarely does anyone bring anything new, improved, or unique to this market. And, when someone actually does; what do the rest of these companies do? Go out and copy it to the best of their ability.

    How many coatings out there that claim “up to 2 years” that barely last 6 mos? How many 15 & 21mm polishers are out there that happen to have the same exact throw/shape/& basic design as Rupes? You ever see an 18mm throw polisher? Nope. And you never will. Too easy to copy what’s already been done.

    So now something comes out that seems to destroy everything else like it and it costs $6. I can only lol and cheer them on.

    Mckee`s 37 Hydro Blue, Blackfire HydroSeal, Pinnacle Crystal SiO2, and maybe Wolfgang Uber Silica Spray (Yes different application, but one can use Hydro Blue in a similar way). EZ Detail Brush and SpeedMaster. AmmoNYC Foamer and the Griots Garage foamer. Blackfire SiO2 Wheel Seal, Mckee`s 37 Wheel Glaze, and Poorboys Wheel Sealant. How similar are they, respectively?

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    Re: Could this be TURTLE WAX??!!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMeanGreen View Post
    Mckee`s 37 Hydro Blue, Blackfire HydroSeal, Pinnacle Crystal SiO2, and maybe Wolfgang Uber Silica Spray (Yes different application, but one can use Hydro Blue in a similar way). EZ Detail Brush and SpeedMaster. AmmoNYC Foamer and the Griots Garage foamer. Blackfire SiO2 Wheel Seal, Mckee`s 37 Wheel Glaze, and Poorboys Wheel Sealant. How similar are they, respectively?
    I hear what you’re saying. The buyer must beware and choose which of said product types to try out to determine what THEY like. It’s kind of like buying cars, isn’t it? Many competitors, selling similar sizes, features, etc. Some are pretty unique, but many just borrowing off each other with their own style. There’s no doubt this goes on in many industries including detailing. PBMG might be like GMC who also has Cadillac, Chevy, Buick, among other labels in the past. If someone wants a Cadillac because they aren’t aroused by a Chevy Equinox, they have an XTS (or XT4 or whatever the latest is called) even if all compact SUVs essentially do the same thing. Some want the higher quality knobs and whistles. Some want the more super charged engine.

    I have no doubt TW has a good thing going with SNS and their other Spray Wax. But to bounce around forums to continually post for other people, including newcomers that everything is smoke and mirrors seems like a lame place to end up in.

    I used to like movies a lot, especially action movies. A few years ago I stopped watching much at all and I now look at all these previews and special effects and wonder what is different about new movies vs a hundred I’ve seen in the past. Let’s be real, just about every possible story has been told at this point in time, there’s just different characters and special effects. I choose to stop watching action movies because they no longer interest me for my own reasons.

    Would I ever want to go to movie blogs and continually criticize new movies to a group of people who have always loved action movies and still do, plus many newcomers who have not seen every old movie, known all those plots, and simply want to watch the new actors, special effects and decide for themselves what is good based on their own preferences right now? Heck no, I don’t need to deliver my message over and over about the washed up action movie seen, like an old grump. I’ll step away and find something I do like with my time, and if I have interest to check out the movie blog to see what people are saying about the latest and greatest, I can do so, sitting back learning about what I came for, only providing my own useful feedback if the situation arises and it seems informative to aid someone else’s knowledge.

    Im not perfect, we all need to complain about products sometimes and it can spur good discussion.... but after awhile, hearing the same negative posts on a website who’s sole business is selling these products and providing thoughts and opinions about the products seems like something unproductive, and perhaps that’s the time that the negative poster should go find a new hobby to learn about, one which is exciting and not previously navigated, one that wont bring up redundant, negative thoughts at this stage in the poster’s life.

    Rant over.
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    Re: Could this be TURTLE WAX??!!

    I also should mention that I thoroughly enjoyed SY’s old posts, when thoughts on specific products and details were discussed. As a newcomer joining in 2017, I spent countless hours reading posts from ~2013-2016 to get an idea of where to start and what products might be right for me. SY’s posts remain as some of the valuable ones that helped me learn. Thank you for that.

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    Re: Could this be TURTLE WAX??!!

    I have not tried this turtle wax but have tried other economical boutique product flavors of the months and none have yet been as hydrophobic (tighter waterbeads and running off of the car) better than Overcoat or Cosmic. Also the amount of sio2 ad tio2 in cosmic is significantly more than those 10-20$ products.

    The have done decent job and for the difference say twice as better may not mean the cost difference for some but Beadmaker, Megs Ceramic Hybrid, mothers CMX do not perform in appearance or hydrophobics and I doubt this product does.

    Just posting my opinions for future readers. Is cosmic 8x better for 8x the cost? No. But if better performance is worth it to you step up. If not their are a lot less expensive products that perform well.

    If not wanting to spend cosmic/overcoat money I’d put Shine Supply Clutch against all these inexpensive wonder products

    End all find what works for you and use it.


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