Sonax Polymer vs Carnuba Waxes(single stg paint)

[Striker]

I just don’t get what I’m doing wrong here- I can’t work with this single stage paint to get all the defects out of it if my life depends on it.

Here is a final pass with Menz 3500 and a Cyan pad. No pressure. Brand new clean pad. Speeds 1-2. Super slow hand speed. And I took my sweet time.

Clarity and gloss are top notch. But you can still see the marring.

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[Striker]

This is the door done with 3500 and cyan blue. Came out much better than the hood. Still some marring. Might step up to 2500


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[Striker]

Enough product ? That’s five dots on my pad.


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[Stokdgs]

Note that the guy who [messed] up my Jag has been using Menzerna since forever, literally was running a rotary on priceless cars (e.g., Rolls Silver Ghost) long before I was even born. He just didn`t listen to me...decades of experience = he knows it all

When I tell somebody specifically, in detail, how to do his job, I`m not wrong. I`d been babying the area in question since the late `80s and knew what I was talking about.

Striker- Sorry to rant all over your thread

Mi Hermano, El Accumulator` !
And even with all that "experience" did he not - ever -measure total thickness to see what was happening?? Guess not..
So sorry, Hemano..
Dan F

[Stokdgs]

Striker -
The clarity and gloss are incredible !

I am pretty sure I don`t use that much product at once..
I also never do an entire door in 1 pass.. Its just too much area to cover and keep the moisture content right.. Especially those - long - doors..

Can you remember before you started that door - were those circular marks in it already ? If so, then they are deeper defects and not something you are introducing..
I always look over the entire spot I am about to do - Before - I start it, so I can see - progress - or not see progress..
Its layers of defects always.. Sometimes, some are just not worth removing because they are so deep..
I have some deep ones on the used Acura TL Type-S I have and I know they are not worth going after, on 12-year-old paintwork..
I just live with them knowing I am keeping as much Clear Coat on the car..
Dan F

[Striker]

I did the door in 3 sections sir I would never do the door as a whole.

Yes, the marks in the first pic was already there but it’s been taken care of now.


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[Stokdgs]

I did the door in 3 sections sir I would never do the door as a whole.

Yes, the marks in the first pic was already there but it’s been taken care of now.


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Striker - Perfect !!!!!!!!!
That is exactly how I would do that door - 2-3 Sections, overlapping each, constantly checking to insure the clarity, gloss, etc., - Matches - across the entire panel when done..
Congrats !!! You Did It !!!
I am so Proud of you !!
The Supreme Rolling Black Mirror is coming out, folks; prepare to be Blinded !!!
Dan F

[Striker]

Thanks Dan! Here’s the last pass with the door.

Since you said I might have been using too much product- four drops for this seem OK?


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[Stokdgs]

Striker -
I use these little white cotton towels and I wipe the pad down with pressure after each pass on that spot is completed..
You are removing dead paint, etc., used product, etc., moisture, etc., and that helps the pads keep cleaner, last longer, before they are just too saturated and need to be changed out..
And as you go across a panel, the accumulative product that stays in the pad, even after the wipe off, means you should be using less product..
It will always be different though, on every panel of every vehicle because of the zillion variables associated with that panel..
Find the best - Balance - for that panel, that day, and you are fine..
I just use a white, cotton, soft, cloth and something like M105 to get scratches out of those Door Cups behind the handle.. It takes a few minutes sometimes, but they always come out very glossy and scratch-free.. Not ever going to put even a 1" pad in that spot, because of the sharp edge around it.
There is - Always - Less paint on sharp edges.. No need to remove paint from a sharp edge, it is not going to be very scratched if any.. Just a light going over and it is fine..
You will know when its good.
I believe I found those little, soft cotton towels at Target years ago.. They have been perfect.. There are little white towels like them on Ebay..

Outstanding work !! Wow !
Dan F

[Striker]

Looks much better under less direct light hahahaha

Now do I touch it up before or after the carnuba. Cuz now it’s bare. And I have no touch up!

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[Stokdgs]

Striker -
Amazing Clarity and Gloss !!!
I would want to do all the touch ups while the chipped places are clean of anything that will prevent the paint from adhering the best it can..
That Jet Black you did so beautifully reminds me of all the Jet Black Bimmers I did that came out like that...

Had a very good friend I did that work to his Jet Black 2003 BMW M5.. He said when he drove it the 75 miles home, when he came up on people with that rolling black mirror, they would immediately move over for him.. And if you know anything about Washington State, no one wants to move over, especially all those Priuses..

They all thought this must be an FBI car or something and they better get out of the way..
You Did It !!!
Dan F

[Striker]

Ohhh that generation M5 was and is the best. Before they went all super high tech and insane


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[Striker]

This paint is moodier than all my ex’s.

Door came out good. Started on the quarter this morning and this is what I get after a pass with 2500 and 3500.

Facepalm.

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[Striker]

*update.
I think I’m being a bit too gentle.

I got pissed off and did another pass with tangerine and 2500 at speed two and bam.



Those are just some holograms from the pad- some fogging which 3500 will clear.


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[Striker]

Dan question for ya.

I keep finding marring caused by my pad. Perfect circular scratches after I do a pass with 2500. Dirty pad- too much speed- going too slow?




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