3D Pre Soak

**mobiledynamics** · 08-27-2018, 06:06 PM

3D has a product called Pre Soak
Has anyone used it. Or seen it . Or heard from it from your peers...

**DetailZeus** · 08-27-2018, 08:39 PM

I plan on picking some up on my next order. The 1:640 to 1:1280 spray bottle dilution ratio is insane. I`ll put it in a 3 gallon garden sprayer and go to town.

**Ancient_1** · 08-27-2018, 10:43 PM

If my son ever gets my PW back I plan ob trying it my foam canon 1st by it`s self and if 1 or 2oz wont foam with my hard water I will add some Fastfoam or Gyeon foam. I have been waiting almost two weeks to try it.

My car right now should be a good test for it, since it hasn`t been hand washed since May 23rd and was last through a touchless July 10th. Since then it has been sitting outside 24/7 and driven in the rain at least a dozen times so should have plenty of road grime on it.

Even with those facts it still looks clean in the outdoor light thanks to color and Gyeon Syncro..

a couple pics

**mobiledynamics** · 08-28-2018, 09:04 AM

i can`t even find the product on 3D`s site - only AGO

**RaydiantDetail** · 08-28-2018, 01:17 PM

What do you all typically look for in a pre-soak? Just curious...This is one part of detailing that I do but still dont know if it really has all that much benefit with all the pH prefoam products.
If we are talking about lubricity would not a majority of the soaps just work in a foam canon to provide that lubricity and carry as much dirt off the panel?

When I think presoak I think of a product that can really cut into the road grime/ built up dirt that pressure washing alone can not tackle. Yet, most of the prefoam soaps I have don`t really do a great job of this at all.

**mobiledynamics** · 08-28-2018, 01:38 PM

Griots Surface Prep. Pre Soak. Anything that helps get`s gunk off before the mitt hits the panel for me.

Depends on dirt. Weekend warrior not so much. Daily driver driven through rain, etc.

**DetailZeus** · 08-28-2018, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by RaydiantDetail

What do you all typically look for in a pre-soak? Just curious...This is one part of detailing that I do but still dont know if it really has all that much benefit with all the pH prefoam products.
If we are talking about lubricity would not a majority of the soaps just work in a foam canon to provide that lubricity and carry as much dirt off the panel?

When I think presoak I think of a product that can really cut into the road grime/ built up dirt that pressure washing alone can not tackle. Yet, most of the prefoam soaps I have don`t really do a great job of this at all.

A bit of alkalinity but non-caustic. Some foam for dwell but not super shaving cream thick foam - I want most of it to have run off by the time I pressure wash it off in 5-10 minutes. I could care less about lubricity as a true prewash should always be rinsed off the paint before your bucket wash step. Should not be interchangeable with a regular shampoo. Basically a foamy, watered-down APC at the end of the day.

**Lonnie** · 08-29-2018, 10:48 AM

If you are interested in this product and want some more info, please see:
https://www.autopia-carcare.com/3d-s...l#.W4bAAaOWz3g

**LGHT** · 08-29-2018, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Lonnie

If you are interested in this product and want some more info, please see:
https://www.autopia-carcare.com/3d-s...l#.W4bAAaOWz3g

Never heard of the term "pre-soak". Do all pre soaks strip wax and seals if any? If so is it only meant to be used just before your re-wax or seal?

taken from the link above.

3D Super Pre-Soak packs some additional benefits. The high pH level of 3D Super Pre-Soak not only breaks down dirt and grime, but also strips off old waxes and sealants