Ceramic Pro Layering...

**SWETM** · 10-13-2017, 11:37 AM

Platinum Package: 2100$
Polishing with Nanopolish.
4 layer Ceramic PRO 9H.
2 extra layers on the front.
2 layer Ceramic PRO Light.
Ceramic PRO Rain on all windows.
2 layers Ceramic PRO Strong on rims.
Ceramic PRO on all plastic exterior.
Ceramic PRO Plastic / Textile / Leather interior.
For each layer ceramic PRO extra 125$

This is from a detailing center in Sweden. And it`s the biggest package they offer. They have warnings about others who offers ceramic PRO 9h and don`t are certified and uses copys of it.
I don`t believe in it`s longevity and the hardness they claims it has.

**512detail** · 10-13-2017, 11:47 AM

that`s just insane..who wants all that on top of paint that is only one stepped? I`ve seen plenty a few cars untouched from the dealer and they needed a solid two step to even consider getting rid of the die back or other manufactured issues

maybe that`s just the autopian in me, but I am personally struggling with offering a one step + coating as I`m making my official price listings (finally)

**SWETM** · 10-13-2017, 11:54 AM

This is on new cars they says. So a correction on a car who is used costs more. There is about 10-15 centers in Sweden. And they looks like legit businesses to what I can see.

**512detail** · 10-13-2017, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by SWETM

This is on new cars they says. So a correction on a car who is used costs more. There is about 10-15 centers in Sweden. And they looks like legit businesses to what I can see.

I don`t draw the line between new and used personally. I`ve seen brand new cars that looked worse than used ones. I`d expect it to cost more but it seems like they`re charging a whole lot for just the coating steps. I`d hate to see what the price was with a compounding stage prior to the nanopolish (and that`s assuming the nanopolish will finish down the compounding step).

**SWETM** · 10-13-2017, 12:11 PM

I totaly agree!

**JSFM35X** · 10-13-2017, 04:12 PM

I cannot tell you why, but I feel like ceramic pro is snake oil.

Am I alone? Is the stuff legit. I see it on cars, and it looks fine, but no better than anything else. Modesta is the only pro coating I think looks better than anything else.

**RaskyR1** · 10-13-2017, 04:16 PM

I feel anything more than 2 coats is a waste. That and having seen some of the "solvent pop" issues posted in one of the FB coating groups I`d be hesitant to do that many layers.

**The Driver** · 10-13-2017, 06:49 PM

I honestly don`t feel comfortable selling ANYONE on multiple layers, I stick with IGL`s 2 coat system. The bottom line is this, coatings DO NOT replace PPF, they are there for chem resistance, light swirl/mar and add a very small amount of actual physical protection against bird droppings and other high acidic debris. I would never tell a customer a coating is equal or anywhere near the level of protection clear bra provides.

Charging in the thousands means PPF, THATS IT!

**DaveT435** · 10-13-2017, 07:59 PM

That kind of money you can go with Crystal Serum. I don`t know if they top Crystal Serum with EXO or not, I wouldn`t think so

**512detail** · 10-14-2017, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by DaveT435

That kind of money you can go with Crystal Serum. I don`t know if they top Crystal Serum with EXO or not, I wouldn`t think so

yes they top it with exo. its called cs black
csl and exo is csl black (comsumer)

**Alasar** · 10-14-2017, 09:55 AM

2 layers 9H + 1,2 layers of Light is minimum optimal imho

**DaveT435** · 10-14-2017, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by 512detail

yes they top it with exo. its called cs black
csl and exo is csl black (comsumer)

CSL/EXOv3 is my go to coating. I`ve never heard it called black. I did read a post somewhere and the individual did say Crystal Serum Black. I thought maybe it was a different version of CSL. Now I know. I don`t worry too much about the Crystal Serum since I can`t get it anyway.