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    Good read. Thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJesus View Post
    Good read. Thanks!!

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    The 50ml bottle fit very nicely in your `bottle block`. Think I`m done messing around with coatings, final thoughts...
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    The 50ml bottle fit very nicely in your `bottle block`. Think I`m done messing around with coatings, final thoughts...
    That`s a pretty good name, too! I ended up with Coating Caddy. Think I`m done messing around with coatings, final thoughts... some other guy came up with it.

    I think 50ml might be the biggest that one fits in the black one? The blue should fit up to 100ml.

    I had a chance to hold a few other coatings, some in 60ml. Ended up making another one that holds 4 bottles, no applicators. Slightly taller, and with a center "post" for additional rigidity.

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    NV NOVA EVO HYBRID CERAMIC COATING

    Cliff Notes: Kami ISM 1.0-ish, a bit thick, pleasing application, quick removal, spread nicely, 2x2 sections. Satisfying...nice gloss, not overly candy-ish...not thin, not thick...somewhere in middle. Good feel to surface, slick but not crazily so...pleasing for sure Think I`m done messing around with coatings, final thoughts...

    U.S Mfg: NV CareCare USA

    U.S. Vendor: Parks Car Care

    Products I used

    NV Nova EVO Ceramic Coating

    NV Nova Jet Spray Coating

    NV Nova Clarity Residue Remover

    Was gonna grab their Boost maintenance product instead of Jet but alas, was not avaliable when i ordered so went with Jet, perhaps a little more stout of a product.

    The topping of coatings is debated by some but for me, what fun is applying a ceramic if ya can`t squirt something on top? This is supposed to be fun (for me anyway) and dropping something on top is something I enjoy on occasion...as long as it is easy; inherent laziness is still the main driver for me w regards to car care.

    An interesting note on Boost from Nick Parks (U.S. Vendor):



    So it appears that Boost can be viewed as a `Sacrificial Layer` of sorts...a phrase used by the mfg of one of my favorite maintenance products, Kamikaze Overcoat.

    Side note regarding U.S. Vendor: Sounds like Nick is a great, upstanding guy, quick to respond, straight-shooter. He had heard I was gonna try Evo from a mutual friend on Facebook and reached out to insure I had no questions, concerns prior to application.

    All other things being equal in terms of overall product performance, I like smaller, more responsive vendors who are willing to to help out `marginally functional` hobbyists like myself despite the fact that they have far more lucrative ways to spend their time. It`s an added benefit for me, one that has paid great dividends for, allowing me to enjoy the whole detailing `thing` far more than just a `buy and try` experience. YMMV. While 22ple has been a favorite for a few years, mfg support has been poor and I kinda get tired of that after a while.

    Some specifics on the Nova EVO product:

    DESCRIPTION:
    A PROFESSIONAL-GRADE HYBRID CERAMIC COATING THAT PROMOTES BOTH EXTREME DURABILITY, AMAZING PROTECTION, AND CANDY-LIKE GLOSS.`

    ABOUT EVO:
    Nova EVO is an innovative hybrid coating that utilizes specific ingredients that focus on long-lasting durability & protection, and immense gloss. This professional-grade hybrid coating is super easy to use and`encases your vehicle in a hydrophobic layer`that will make your vehicle easier to clean and leave it shining for years.

    EVO HYBRID CERAMIC TECHNOLOGY:
    We have invested countless hours into developing our NOVA series and creating paint protective products with no compromise. This has been a very challenging quest, as most of the additives that increase water beading & gloss have inverse effects on there environmental resistance and durability.

    When making a coating easier to apply & cheaper to produce, it usually requires that more layers are needed to become effective. However, by using the highest grade of organic & inorganic coating ingredients with years of development, we have created the perfect hybrid ceramic coating that only requires one-layer for optimal performance.`

    SPECIFICATIONS:
    * 3-year durability`

    * Very high level of gloss

    * Water Contact Angle: 110 Degrees+

    * Incredible environmental resistance & crazy water-repellency`

    * Professional-grade performance

    * Very easy application

    * Curing Time: 7-14 Days until complete hardness

    * High swirl resistance`

    APPLICATION:
    1. Ensure the surface is decontaminated, cleaned and polished

    2. Wipe down the surface with Nv Clarity

    3. Apply a line of drops on a suede microfiber applicator

    4. Wipe onto the surface in straight even lines, horizontally and vertically (Try not to work in larger areas, break each panel into sections no bigger than 50x50cm)

    5. Wipe off almost instantly, don’t wait longer than 2 minutes.

    6. Use a second towel to ensure even wipe off.

    CURING NOTES:
    Apply Nova Boost after leaving the coating cure overnight.

    Wait a minimum of 7 days before washing your vehicle.

    Full Hardening is 7 - 14 days.

    A little background on how I ran across NV Nova Evo and why I decided to give it a try:

    Although I don`t really watch much on YouTube w regards to coating comparisons, someone had sent me a link to an Australian Detailer who did a comparison of Kamikaze Miyabi and EVO. Intrigued, I gave it a view and it seemed like an interesting product.

    It`s no secret that I`m a huge fan of Kamikaze stuff; it`s been kickin` ass and takin` names for me in a variety of situations since first giving Overcoat a try in Summer of 2016, suggested by a well-respected Autopia Forum user.

    The product-line has continually exceeded my expectations, I enjoy using it and it meets my particular wants and needs better than anything else I`ve tried. Everyone has their favorites for reasons both tangible and otherwise, no harm no foul. Life we be dull (Forums too) if we all liked the same stuff; "Find what you like and use it often".

    The EVO also interested me due to its 1-layer application, its attractive, somewhat subdued packaging and refreshing lack of bloviating, sensationalist marketing claims. A product that claims "Diamond-Infused, Eleventy-Billion h hardness that can shrug off numerous hits from mortar rounds during its guaranteed 15 year life span" is a downer for me; let your product do the talking, not your marketing department.



    The vehicle I used this on was (yet another) new Race Red Ford Transit, fortunately a smaller Connect model. They come in pretty good shape from dealer, typical light marring which gets added to when the graphics guy comes by to apply decals. Aside from 2 spots on the roof where Ford inexpliably slaps some bar-coded stickers on, its really light work to get it ready to coat. Removing the stickers requires some adhesive remover and a plastic razor blade so went over those areas with Griots Correcting Cream w Uro Fiber pad to knock down the marring. Other than that, Sonax Perfect Finish w new-style Rupes yellow pads took care of slight scratches and a bit of marring from synthetic clay mitt. Used Rupes 15 Mk2, Rupes Mini and BOSS 21 where possible.

    I generally wipe down each panel w CarPro Eraser after polishing and then hose down the entire vehicle section by section when done. I may overdo the prep wipe but I think I gooned up a 22ple HPC application once due to a hurried wipedown so I might go a bit overboard now. In the name of `product synergy`, known to many as `following reccomended directions`, I then went over entire vehicle with NV`s Clarity panel wipe.

    The Clarity, which for some reason I ordered in 1 litre size, is quite a nice product. Nice sprayhead, not grabby or streaky, smooth and pleasurable to use, non-offensive scent. As mentioned, I can get a little over-exuberant with the panel wipe process and coupled w a Rag Company Platinum Pluffle the Clarity tolerated my indulgence very well. Quick, light wipe w Edgeless 350gsm before coating each panel and ready to go.

    As for application of EVO, I did try a new applicator combo with this one, initially anyway. Autofiber had come out with some 4x4 `coating saver` applicator cloths for use w the standard coating blocks supplied w most coatings.



    My preferred applicators for most coatings are the Autofiber 3x5 thin coating saver applicators; they just seem easier to get even coat down.

    The block that came w the Evo was a bit smaller than the norm. I did 2 sections w the Autofiber 4x4 cloths/Evo block, 2 with Evo-supplied microsuedes and Evo block then just grabbed the 3x5 thin coating saver applicators for the rest.

    I think the cloths woulda been better/more familiar on standard size blocks but were just a bit much on the narrower NV blocks. Since my preference for the 3x5 thin applicators was not changed after trying the above combos, won`t likely use them again. It`s a personal preference thing really so YMMV.



    Was applying at about 65-70 degrees F, low humidity and ended up using about 20ml for entire vehicle. It spread pretty nicely, a little grabby as applicator loaded up but was still able to make very efficient use of the product; frankly, I was quite surprised how far the product went given all the paint it had to cover on the windowless van. I had saved the expansive and irritating roof for last to insure I wouldn`t run out and was quite surprised how much was left in bottle afterwards.

    Was removing with typical Edgeless 300 for first wipe, Edgeless 350 for 2nd wipe/cleanup. Even though it`s kinda a thicker product when it hit the paint, it spread well, was easy to see on surface and removed nicely. When all was said and done, i had gine thru 1.5 of the 3x5 coating saver applicators, 2 of the 300gsm towels and 1.5 of the 350`s. The coating didn`t really load up the removal towels as much as I would have suspected, a nice plus cuz i toss all coating towels these days...for $10 dollars in towels not worth the effort to me anymore to soak, wash and and throw into the `general use` bin which has since evolved into an entire cabinet; last thing I need is more `non paint worthy` towels.

    The application is pretty close to "apply in cross-hatch pattern on 24" x 24" sections, pause a moment to admire your skills and then remove." Removal isnt quite as light as something like Gtech CSL or Kami Miyabi but it`s by no means difficult; rather `substantially satisfying` with a feeling of "I liked" that after each section. Had Nora Jones 1st two albums on as the soundtrack for this one and it fit the application well...smooth, cool, mellow and enjoyable.

    Vehicle took a bit over an 1.5 hrs to complete application, maybe closer to 2 cuz i hadda climb up on the roof, do a third of it (Blessed are those of us with long, lanky arms!), reposition and repeat. I did stretch application sections on roof to 24" x 36" outta curiosity and it was still relatively easy to remove but I`d stick with a bit smaller (as recommended) if not in a hurry.

    I did a few sections where I applied up-down, side-to-side, up-down which cured the coating slightly more on panel, the upside being going immediately from application to removal w no "Is it ready for removal?" waiting. Seemed to be no penalty w regards to final results. Applicator got a little tackier a bit faster but nothing alarmingly significant, really.

    Final feel after coating is quite nice, a bit of slickness; not Gyeon Syncro, SPS Graphene slick but still slick enough that when doing the roof bottle almost slid off at slight decline in angle near winshield where roof slopes down every so slightly to meet windshield, coulda been saddening if I didn`t catch it.

    Gloss is nice, kinda reminds me of CQuartz UK 3.0 + Gliss V2. A touch of `medium thick candy` and not `thin, extra-candy` like Gyeon CanCoat.

    I`m gonna drop Jet on the majority of it after 48 hrs, will leave the roof w just the EVO to see how that does.

    Overall, I like it and enjoyed the application. Initial impressions include a nice vendor, a neat mfg and a pleasing look. I hope it does well, I`ll let ya know in a few months.

    Edit: Is there a particular characteristic of a coating that is responsible for the near immediate removal after applying in smaller sections?
    Interesting to find out that there is graphene in their formula but don’t promote it.

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    Continuing on w my burgeoning penchant for 1-layer, quickly flashing coatings I gave The Gloss Shop`s newly released Titan a try.

    Cliff Notes for Short Attention Span Theatre types:

    Thicker consistency, easy to see where applied, workable in 2x2 sections, sometimes a bit larger, cross-hatch pattern works well for even coverage w little buildup, a little goes a long way. Multi surface, nice `thicker` looking gloss w just a slight tough of `candy`, slight darkening...classy look overall. Satisfying, enjoyable application.

    For those with more appetite, a couple of bowls of detailed `Word Salad` to follow; otherwise here`s a great exit point for the TL;DR folks Think I`m done messing around with coatings, final thoughts...

    Mfg/Vendor description:

    Titan is our 9h professional grade ceramic coating offering the highest level of Si02 content of all our coatings.

    With proper maintenance, Titan will offer up to 5 years protection from a single layer.

    Once cured, this coating offers the most resistance to scratches and the harsh elements a vehicle faces including graffiti.

    The Gloss Shop Titan can be applied to paint, glass, plastic, wheels, and metal.

    When applied to exterior plastics and trim, the finish will remain in a natural looking OEM condition.`
    `
    We recommend maintaining the coating with The Gloss Shop Ultra Body Wash to cut through tough road film at least every two weeks.

    An application of Hydrophobe Express Coating will add intense water beading and extremely slick surface.

    Our coating is handmade in the USA in small batches. `It meets VOC`compliance laws in all 50 states.

    While the coating does not have strong odors common to ceramic coatings, we still recommend applying in well ventilated areas and wear proper protective equipment.

    **Ambient working temperature of 60-85° F**`

    Directions:

    1) Wash & dry vehicle thoroughly

    2)`Fully`decontaminate surface to remove silicones, waxes, bugs, & fallout. `Polish paint to remove swirls & scratches.

    3) Shake product well. `Pour a few drops onto applicator of choice. `Working on a cool surface out of direct sunlight, apply product in a crosshatch pattern no larger than 2`x2`.

    4) Allow product to flash 1-2 minutes before gently wiping residue with a lint free microfiber towel.` Level high spots immediately, do not use heavy pressure.

    5) Allow 24 hours before exposing to water or moisture.

    *Due to quick flash time, professional application strongly recommended.

    Titan is a recent release from Richard Wright at The Gloss Shop and I`ve used his previous ceramic (then called The Gloss Shop Ceramic V2, now renamed Zen1th) a few times and it performed as advertised...quite nice. Kinda a no-brainer for me to give Titan a try as i was looking for another 1-layer coating and my previous experiences w his coatings were excellent. He has also released a `mid level` coating Pho3nix that looks interesting.

    Generally the 1-layer, quicker flashing coatings take a bit more attention to apply. Somewhat less forgiving as far as how much area you can cover before removal and seem to be a bit thicker in consistency meaning it`s a bit easier to overload removal towels and unwittingly push coating residue to adjacent panels where it sets up and leaves a high spot. Titan followed these characteristics which in reality, sound worse than they are; pay attention, work more deliberately with attention to section edges and its actually a relaxing process.

    Priced at $110 for 50ml and suitable for paint, trim, glass and such, it`s the perfect size for these ridiculous Ford Transit E250, windowless, long-wheelbase fleet vans; these things have more paint than a `72 Plymouth Fury Think I`m done messing around with coatings, final thoughts....

    Using a 3x5 thin coating saver applicator, it took about 1.5 hrs & 30ml to do the paint, about another 10-15ml to do the voluminous amounts of black plastic trim. Gonna pour the leftover in something and let it cure to see if it`s somewhat flexible when it sets up. Did that with a coating before and it was surprisingly pliable...right up until it wasn`t Think I`m done messing around with coatings, final thoughts...

    Cured coating: https://youtu.be/Iqsn5EhemO0

    The Titan would rainbow a few seconds after finishing a cross hatched, 2x2 section and remained easily removable for a minute or 2 after that. It was about 65 degrees F w little humidity during application.

    The surface was nicely smooth and slick enough that the bottle would slide off of a area coated about 15 minutes before; not slick enough that gravity alone would let a 300gsm slide off the marginally inclined hood but pleasing to the touch nontheless.

    The look reminds me a bit of the thicker, molten gloss of 22ple HPC on this Race Red paint. Parked next to the Race Red one I did recently with NV Nova Evo, it seemed just a touch lighter in shade but overall a very nice look and shine.

    I`ll hit it with Gloss Shop Hydrophobe Express coating at some point (spray & rinse deal) when the weather warms up, if the weather warms up. In the meantime the vehicle will sit inside until late March. I imagine ill toss water at the hood at some point, hard to resist when ya walk by it every morning.

    3 down (Kamikaze ISM 2.0, NV Nova Evo & Gloss Shop Titan) and 1 more to go this Winter (Shine Supply Beadlock Pro).

    Edit: 2 days later, applicators are crispy for whatever that`s worth.
    Thanks for the write up. Nice to see the line expanded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    Interesting to find out that there is graphene in their formula but don’t promote it.
    There is?!?!?? If I`d have known that i might not have tried it Think I`m done messing around with coatings, final thoughts...


    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    Thanks for the write up. Nice to see the line expanded.
    Agreed. His original ceramic was quite good, moreso given the price. The Titan is $110 for 50ml and even less than that if a member of Autoality. I hope it does well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BudgetPlan1 View Post
    There is?!?!?? If I`d have known that i might not have tried it Think I`m done messing around with coatings, final thoughts...



    Agreed. His original ceramic was quite good, moreso given the price. The Titan is $110 for 50ml and even less than that if a member of Autoality. I hope it does well.
    Lol mc heck the back this is someone’s photo where I saw it.

    Speaking of Graphene what do you think of Kamikaze Stance going the Graphene route?

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    The one thing that I’m surprised that hasn’t happened is more coating moving to a hardener catalyst two part coating something like a traditional 30-50ml bottle of coating that came with5-10 mild hardener in a small separate bottle to mix together when applying. Some coatings do this Aquartz (not Cquartz) and johns360 and a few others.

    it just seems like that would be a good move no guessing games with applications. Temp doesn’t really matter. And cure time would probably a few hours before the vehicle was able to be released. I would think durability would get a boost nothing major like double but there’s a lot of variables taken out when switching to hardener/catalyst 2part formula. It would be more consistent results.

    This might be a turn off or intimidating to potential customers but I would certainly welcome it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    Lol mc heck the back this is someone’s photo where I saw it.
    Thanks for the pic, wish I had saved my box to check. I remember when ordering there was a note about packaging being changed:

    "AS OF 11/6/2020 NV NOVA EVO PACKAGING HAS CHANGED. THE 7X7 PACKAGING HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED "

    Well, fool me once, shame on me...but fool me twice? From the Waxit website regarding NV Nova Evo:

    “If you are looking for a professional grade coating that can be purchased at any level, this is a fantastic choice. Crazy durability, chemical resistance, water behaviour, gloss… Nova EVO does it all."


    Nova EVO is a silica and diamond powder infused coating. This professional grade hybrid coating was created in the quest for a paint protective solution that incurred no compromise. The revolutionary coating boasts extreme levels of elemental protection & chemical resistance. Nova EVO can help mitigate light swirling & scratching through its unique friction eliminating surface structure. While Nova EVO creates a hardened sacrificial layer, this is not the underlying factor that helps mitigate swirls which a lot of companies misconstrue. With the addition of diamond powder the coating has a much stronger bond to the surface, also allowing it to last up to 3 years!"

    I`ve always rolled my eyes at a particular coating mfg who touted their coatings` "Diamond-Infused 10h hardness" because it contained carbon (which turns into diamond in literally about a Billion years).

    So now it turns out that I`ve used a coating (and quite honestly, really enjoyed it) with possible graphene *and* diamond in it, 2 things of which I`m somewhat skeptical. Methinks perhaps Karma is telling me it`s time to stop engaging in this coating nonsense...it`s like I`m not even paying attention anymore

    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    Speaking of Graphene what do you think of Kamikaze Stance going the Graphene route?
    I will admit to my heart being a bit heavy when I first saw that...

    Fortunately I believe they will still be producing the non-graphene V2 of Stance, still my favorite wheel coating. The appeal of it (in addition to performance) is how easy it is to use. Very forgiving so can cover a lot of area before removal; the V3 w/ graphene is apparently a bit more cantankerous to use.

    Hopefully the World eases up a bit by Summer so I`ll be able to ask him about that if the Annual Open House takes place and he is able to fly in for it...unfortunately 2 big IF`s at this point I`d say.

    Quote Originally Posted by William_Wallace View Post
    The one thing that I’m surprised that hasn’t happened is more coating moving to a hardener catalyst two part coating something like a traditional 30-50ml bottle of coating that came with5-10 mild hardener in a small separate bottle to mix together when applying. Some coatings do this Aquartz (not Cquartz) and johns360 and a few others.

    it just seems like that would be a good move no guessing games with applications. Temp doesn’t really matter. And cure time would probably a few hours before the vehicle was able to be released. I would think durability would get a boost nothing major like double but there’s a lot of variables taken out when switching to hardener/catalyst 2part formula. It would be more consistent results.

    This might be a turn off or intimidating to potential customers but I would certainly welcome it.
    STEK had/has a coating that is like this as well.
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    Johns360??? How do you find this stuff
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    Re: Think I`m done messing around with coatings, final thoughts...

    Reply from US Distributor on the graphene/diamond-powder thing:

    Thanks for reaching out. Nv Evo has both SIO2 and Graphene contents in it, this has been a part of the formulation since the products inception. The second statement which you found on wax it’s website, is the same statement in different terms which are more applicable to their Australian audience. Silica referring to SIO2 and diamond powder being graphene. We have not heavily marketed the graphene contents, as our primary focus has and always will be the real world functionality and results that the product provides, as opposed to what is in the coating. However, like in this instance, we are always happy to discuss the contents when requested.


    Let me know if you have any additional questions, and thank you for your business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BudgetPlan1 View Post
    Reply from US Distributor on the graphene/diamond-powder thing:
    I like that response. Hadn`t heard of Nv before your review. Thanks.
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    Re: Think I`m done messing around with coatings, final thoughts...

    While we likely won`t have any rain to watch any time soon, a little snowmelt on the Gloss Shop Titan: https://youtu.be/OqFI54xhL3U

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    Quote Originally Posted by BudgetPlan1 View Post
    While we likely won`t have any rain to watch any time soon, a little snowmelt on the Gloss Shop Titan: https://youtu.be/OqFI54xhL3U
    Looks good. Water runnin away fast!


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    LOL @BudgetPlan1,i probably would`ve of bought Nv Evo either if i knew it had graphene! lol I have the same box that Mike the Guz posted. It indeed states graphene infused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noorth View Post
    LOL @BudgetPlan1,i probably would`ve of bought Nv Evo either if i knew it had graphene! lol I have the same box that Mike the Guz posted. It indeed states graphene infused.
    I gotta give NV Nova `bonus points` for not marketing it as a graphene coating...perhaps they have learned from others! I think the interesting part of their statement is "Silica referring to SIO2 and diamond powder being graphene.".

    I always kinda chuckled at IGL w/ their "Diamond-Infused` claims for Kenzo (who are now marketing Kenzo as graphene-infused)...curious as to whether the `new` Kenzo is the same formulation as the old and they merely switched from "diamonds" to "graphene" in their description? From what NV said, it`s the same formulation in their case, just different descriptions for different markets.

    Regardless, the NV Nova was one of the more interesting products I have used in the last few seasons, I hope it does well. I have 1 more to do this Winter (Shine Supply Beadlock Pro) but I`m really having trouble working up the motivation to get it done :shrug:

    On a related note, the Gloss Shop Titan and NV Nova coating leftovers are curing somewhat differently on my desk. There was slightly more (maybe 10ml) of Titan vs maybe 5ml of NV Nova but the Evo is setting up quicker and clearer than Titan. Still a little `push` with Titan while EVO is kinda firm to the touch. Will give `em another week then cut off the plastic cups and see what remains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BudgetPlan1 View Post
    I gotta give NV Nova `bonus points` for not marketing it as a graphene coating...perhaps they have learned from others! I think the interesting part of their statement is "Silica referring to SIO2 and diamond powder being graphene.".

    I always kinda chuckled at IGL w/ their "Diamond-Infused` claims for Kenzo (who are now marketing Kenzo as graphene-infused)...curious as to whether the `new` Kenzo is the same formulation as the old and they merely switched from "diamonds" to "graphene" in their description? From what NV said, it`s the same formulation in their case, just different descriptions for different markets.

    Regardless, the NV Nova was one of the more interesting products I have used in the last few seasons, I hope it does well. I have 1 more to do this Winter (Shine Supply Beadlock Pro) but I`m really having trouble working up the motivation to get it done :shrug:

    On a related note, the Gloss Shop Titan and NV Nova coating leftovers are curing somewhat differently on my desk. There was slightly more (maybe 10ml) of Titan vs maybe 5ml of NV Nova but the Evo is setting up quicker and clearer than Titan. Still a little `push` with Titan while EVO is kinda firm to the touch. Will give `em another week then cut off the plastic cups and see what remains.

    Think I`m done messing around with coatings, final thoughts...-curing_coatings.jpg
    Thats interesting about Kenzo. I noticed on Scott H longterm tests that kenzo and SPS graphene are neck to neck on a few youtube updates.

    Nv Nova Evo doesn`t have that gray look though. Not sure about IGL Kenzo.

    I`m also surprised sandro didn`t mention the graphene in Nv Evo. Thats assuming he`s aware of it.

    I jumped the gun again, i just put Evo up to the light! Grayish type substance has settled to the bottom!! Carpro cquartz 3.0 is very clear and water like.

    Hilarious i ended up with a graphene infused ninja coating! :

    I would post a picture but i tried lastnight and it was an headache. Never did figure it out. Chromebooks are a little tricky.

 

 
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