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    Re: PB Black Hole + ? Wax

    Quote Originally Posted by etnops View Post
    Grand National drop off is tonight. Will be working on it tomorrow afternoon. Will post pics for sure.
    Interested myself to see how much Black Hole will fill on this paint, and how much of a difference (that I can see, anyway) there may be between Natty`s Blue and Souveran.
    Charge the camera
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    Re: PB Black Hole + ? Wax

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronkh View Post
    Charge the camera
    so you are charging your camera and coming to the show
    life is short ..do it while you can

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    Re: PB Black Hole + ? Wax

    It has arrived.



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    Re: PB Black Hole + ? Wax

    Quote Originally Posted by Poorboy View Post
    so you are charging your camera and coming to the show
    thinkin bout it
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    Re: PB Black Hole + ? Wax

    Quote Originally Posted by 512detail View Post
    as far as filling...this is 1 blk hole via machine, 1 nattys black via hand

    Was this on a bare panel or was there already an lsp?

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    Re: PB Black Hole + ? Wax

    Quote Originally Posted by 2quikta View Post
    Was this on a bare panel or was there already an lsp?
    that was a flat panel, i didn`t do a panel wipe but there was definitely no protection on it when we washed it then clayed


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    Re: PB Black Hole + ? Wax

    The Skinny:
    In this application, Natty`s Blue was a much better fit, than Souveran. Simply, Poorboy`s wax filled (to a stark degree), and did not leave faint streaks and splotches that Souveran did. Souveran had zero filling ability...which was what we were going after: filling with glaze and wax.
    Perhaps Souveran is better on fully corrected paint, and/or clearcoat (this was single stage black).

    The decklid/trunklid was done with Black Hole and Souveran.
    In the sun, from a distance - I couldn`t tell a difference. Up close, remaining swirls and imperfections were apparent, as were slight streaks.
    Souveran was applied and wiped off "wet" as per the instructions.
    Could not capture these streaks and splotches on camera....they were difficult to see, but see them, you could.


    On to the details:
    Panels wiped down with D114.
    Claybar not necessary.
    Black Hole applied over entire car, in sections (with Rupes Mini and red waxing pads). About 4 section passes for each, until the Black Hole seemed to "vanish" into the finish, and produce an ever so slight haze.
    Natty`s Blue applied by hand (without wiping off Black Hole haze), with Buff and Shine UFO red applicator. Natty`s given 20-30min dry time before buffing off.

    Overall:
    Pleased with the outcome. Black Hole filled quite well, but Natty`s Blue took things over the top (as in the Sylvester Stallone arm wrestling movie).
    Paint looked clean, dark, and reflective. Not exactly the "inky" look that we were hoping for...but perhaps that will only come with proper correction.


    Souveran with BH on top, Natty`s Blue with BH on bottom:


    Decklid with Souveran and BH:


    Roof with Natty`s Blue and BH:


    Bonnet:


    Some very slight swirling still visible:


    General Paint condition before glaze and wax:


    After glaze and wax:


    Glamour Shots:



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    Re: PB Black Hole + ? Wax

    Interesting. I only use Souveran on fully corrected paint. Any plans to correct this one in the future?
    Treat it like it`s the only one in the world.

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    Re: PB Black Hole + ? Wax

    Perhaps a correction down the road. Up to the owner. I`ve advised to just glaze/wax it every couple of months to see how things fare. My guess is a correction will happen later this year, perhaps when it isn`t so hot.
    In that scenario, I`d probably polish with Meg`s Ultimate Polish, and wax it with Souveran.

    Owner is contemplating a new paint job - base coat/clear coat. However, it`s totally not necessary. Paint is is excellent condition, given the age.

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    Re: PB Black Hole + ? Wax

    Definitely encourage him to keep that paint. It`s only original once.
    Treat it like it`s the only one in the world.

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    Re: PB Black Hole + ? Wax

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill D View Post
    Definitely encourage him to keep that paint. It`s only original once.
    My feelings exactly. If I were shopping, I`d pay through the nose for healthy original paint but I`d expect a huge price break if it`d been repainted in b/c (if I considered it at all and I probably wouldn`t), even if it were a 5-figure/done properly repaint and most guys don`t bother with that.

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    steve couldnt find you at show......
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    Re: PB Black Hole + ? Wax

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronkh View Post
    steve couldnt find you at show......
    Owner decided to go to a Miami Lakes show instead. Apparently, more GM guys were going to that one.
    Bummer, because the Pompano show is certainly a blast.

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    Re: PB Black Hole + ? Wax

    Quote Originally Posted by etnops View Post
    Owner decided to go to a Miami Lakes show instead. Apparently, more GM guys were going to that one.
    Bummer, because the Pompano show is certainly a blast.
    Glad it worked out for you and I agree .. no repaint.. rather see swirls on thin original paint ... but next time add a few coats of EX and you won`t see any!

    this was one of the biggest shows they have had ... it looked like every Vette in South Florida and from NY ( :lol ) were there ...

    there were also a great collection of Mopars and 442`s too .. as well as Lambos, Rolls Royce, Lotus and bunches of Street Rods

    it was 91 in the shade and I did the lot twice to make sure I didn`t miss the car ...
    life is short ..do it while you can

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    Re: PB Black Hole + ? Wax

    Quote Originally Posted by Poorboy View Post
    Glad it worked out for you and I agree .. no repaint.. rather see swirls on thin original paint ... but next time add a few coats of EX and you won`t see any!

    this was one of the biggest shows they have had ... it looked like every Vette in South Florida and from NY ( :lol ) were there ...

    there were also a great collection of Mopars and 442`s too .. as well as Lambos, Rolls Royce, Lotus and bunches of Street Rods

    it was 91 in the shade and I did the lot twice to make sure I didn`t miss the car ...
    Sorry you were looking for the car, and it wasn`t there! Rats!

    Does EX fill, to some degree? Can`t imagine a more potent combo than Black Hole and Natty`s Blue.
    Since we will be filling for the next 6 months, until it cools down to do a proper correction - how long should the BH and NB last, on a garage kept car, that only gets wipe downs?

    Keeping this original paint, is now priority. The previous owner (who was/is original owner) was meticulous, and kept excellent care of every part. Up until last week, nobody has ridden in the back seat, and the original floormats were never used. The vehicle was delivered with a steering wheel cover. This gives us an idea of how well the paint, among all the other parts were taken care of.

    Cheers!
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