Waxes with coating properties,

[top189h]

After Synergy released, I really expected more products similar to it to come out, but so far I`ve only seen synergy and kamikaze`s infinity wax. Are there others that I`m missing or is it not a common type of product?

[zmcgovern45]

What do you consider "coating properties"?

To me, a coating is beneficial because of its added thickness, chemical resistance, and durability compared to traditional types of protection (ie sealants and waxes). All forms of LSP will bead/sheet water well, so to me that isn`t a true comparison, and therefore I don`t consider any wax or sealant to truly have "coating properties"... but that is just me.

[Mike lambert]

Kamakaze infinity wax is away with coating durability

[Ronkh]

I think CG just made a copy and called it the first and only

[top189h]

My idea of chemical coating properties come from the description of Synergy. It claims to have nanoglass particles that are found in the Black Label coatings, and Kamikaze claims to have 39% glass coating in it. I`ve never used either product but I`m just curious because it sounded innovative if it worked. As for what I define as a coating property physically to be, I would say the chemical resistance and the self cleaning component. I`ve never gotten the self cleaning effect from any sealant much less wax that I see from true coatings. My main reason for asking about it, is my CQUK is dying out on my dd and I want to replace it with something similar but easier to use, and I was either just going to go back to waxing it or try a product like this.

[nothingface5384]

My thing is
if it doesn`t offer scratch/impact protection, its not a coating...just another sealant
if someone could some out with a coating spray that bonds ti itself that would be sweet ahaha

[nothingface5384]

But if you want an easy application and a coating
Polish Angel Viking coating
it applies like a paste wax

[Accumulator]

top189h- That sounds like exactly what I get from FK1000P, and that`s why it`s become my go-to LSP.

I get self-cleaning from FK1000P that *IME* equals that of OptiCoat v2.0 (unfair comparison though as I only use the coating on wheels and I do think it works slightly better for that specific application). Zero etching from birds/bugs too (I don`t bother cleaning them off between washes, once left bugs on for months without any etching...works so well for me that I have zero interest in using a coating on the body of the car proper. Yeah, I have to redo it more often, and there`s no marring resistance, but those shortcomings don`t bother me and I like being able to do spot-correction as needed.

I mean...I`ll have a FK1000P`ed vehicle that`s really dirty, and then a hard rain basically washes it clean (well, clean enough..). Or I`ll do my Pressure Washer Rinse and decide it looks so clean I won`t bother washing it after all, and I just blow it dry.

[Paintxpert]

Scratch and impact protection would be a dream product. I hear they are coming out with healing paint. The breaches whether scratched or chipped will actually close up and mend themselves. That would not be good for business.

[Stokdgs]

Didnt someone like Infiniti already come out with that self healing paint ?
Did I dream that ??
Dan F

[Dogfather]

Didnt someone like Infiniti already come out with that self healing paint ?
Did I dream that ??
Dan F

Yes, I believe Nissan GTRs supposedly have that.

[nothingface5384]

Carpro immortal. But not out yet

[silverfox]

Coatings will be the standard once they apply and look like a wax. The Viking coat from polish angel is the future. I applaud them for getting it right. They are clearly ahead of the curve. Sonus Ion is also in that vein.

[zmcgovern45]

Didnt someone like Infiniti already come out with that self healing paint ?
Did I dream that ??
Dan F

Lexus also offers it on some models..... long story short - it is ineffective.

[Lonnie]

Didnt someone like Infiniti already come out with that self healing paint ?
Did I dream that ??
Dan F

Self-healing is NOT self-cleaning.
Ask any pro-detailer who has worked on this paint and they will tell you horror stories about how difficult it is to "correct" this paint/clear coat to get it to look decent. Even with the information within this forum, it seemed like a lot of pro-detailers went through a learning curve of trial-and-error to find a combination of pads, polishes, and rotary/DA polisher speeds and application pressure and techniques that worked for them.