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    Re: Are carnuaba waxes an obsoleted car-care product?? (Continuing on the great debate...)

    ^ you guys would LOVE NaviWax Ultimate. It`s very Collinite 915 "like"; but it`s just better than 915 - if you can believe it. It costs more. Since nobody really distributes this stuff in the USA, you have to order it from Europe. But, I think you can get it through Ebay now.

    I tried to get AG to carry it - but nobody seemed interested.

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    Re: Are carnuaba waxes an obsoleted car-care product?? (Continuing on the great debate...)

    Sorry, yeah..some bad news guys. The report just came in declaring waxes obsolete. I`m not even going to try arguing with it; after all, it`s just a piece of paper.
    I gotta run, but I`ll post my address later where you can send the waxes to. I`ll even pay you for them.
    Thanks again,
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    Re: Are carnuaba waxes an obsoleted car-care product?? (Continuing on the great debate...)

    I saw the waxes in the meueam next to the dodo bird. All extinct species. Have seen a Swiss wax detail in a long long time have you Too bad I liked their pheu

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    Re: Are carnuaba waxes an obsoleted car-care product?? (Continuing on the great debate...)

    I still use carnauba, on the right vehicle. It`s not a car that people take out in the elements. Garage queens, "car porn" look great with some fresh carnuba. Its not about anything but the look. I wouldn`t waste my time on a daily driver, but those that like the deep rich warmth of carnauba for their show cars. I`m all about it, I`ll menzerna sf4500 that paint, and apply some carnauba by hand a couple times a year for you. You`ll pay deeply for my efforts for the short term results.
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    Re: Are carnuaba waxes an obsoleted car-care product?? (Continuing on the great debate...)

    It`s a `cute` but nearly pointless debate...especially for `Autopians`. Anyone on this site is to one degree or another obsessed with paint correction/protection and will likely invest whatever time and money that`s necessary to maintain a shiny, clean ride...and the compliments that go with it. (I`m remembering a couple of times I gave co-workers a ride and they commented on how immaculate the ride was...I guess they mostly rode around in rolling trash bins! )

    I think we can say that carnuba yields a deeper, brighter shine, but is somewhat short lived. Sealants and polymers have a softer sheen but last longer.
    So what`s most important - a brighter shine or a longer, better protection? `Bright shine - long lasting` ("Great taste - less filling").
    For some Autopians, `waxing` once a month (or more) is no big deal. For others, perhaps obsessed, but more `lazy`, continue to search for the holy grail of a good look that lasts a long time...only achieved by a sealant or polymer coating.

    So it`s really just a choice. today`s shine vs. tomorrow`s longer term protection. Each will have it`s defenders but neither is right or wrong.

    Now I live in the northeast, where the weather is crappy (including real WINTER) 8 months out of the year. So I will invest [more] time weekly in spring/summer, but come fall, I need the best long term protection I can get with weekly trips to the PW bay.
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    Re: Are carnuaba waxes an obsoleted car-care product?? (Continuing on the great debate...)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ecrissman View Post
    I still use carnauba, on the right vehicle. It`s not a car that people take out in the elements. Garage queens, "car porn" look great with some fresh carnuba. Its not about anything but the look. I wouldn`t waste my time on a daily driver, but those that like the deep rich warmth of carnauba for their show cars. I`m all about it, I`ll menzerna sf4500 that paint, and apply some carnauba by hand a couple times a year for you. You`ll pay deeply for my efforts for the short term results.
    Nuttin like the look !!!
    Formerly the "Best Detailer", now just Super Wax Waster Man. Not necessarily tactful, but normally right. It`s good to be da King !!!
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    Re: Are carnuaba waxes an obsoleted car-care product?? (Continuing on the great debate...)

    Ron. I hope you know I come to these thread just for you. Do you remember the afternoon at PB that you were trying to get me to try ex and I was so stuck on wax.

    Man a lot has changed since 2008.

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    Nuttin like the look !!!
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    Re: Are carnuaba waxes an obsoleted car-care product?? (Continuing on the great debate...)

    Quote Originally Posted by JSFM35X View Post
    Ron. I hope you know I come to these thread just for you. Do you remember the afternoon at PB that you were trying to get me to try ex and I was so stuck on wax.

    Man a lot has changed since 2008.
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    Formerly the "Best Detailer", now just Super Wax Waster Man. Not necessarily tactful, but normally right. It`s good to be da King !!!

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    Re: Are carnuaba waxes an obsoleted car-care product?? (Continuing on the great debate...)

    Somewhere in the five pages of this thread I suppose we discussed the way that some waxes provide *better* etching protection than some sealants...at least under some circumstances (gee, note all those qualifiers).

    Swanicyouth- In what way to you consider NaviWax Ultimate "better" than 915? Not that I`ve ever used 915 or expect to ever try another LSP in this lifetime...just curious.

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    Re: Are carnuaba waxes an obsoleted car-care product?? (Continuing on the great debate...)

    on my garage queens which are mostly italian i have used zymol hd clense, 3m imperial hand glaze and zymol ital for 20 years. the cars always look like they`re dripping wet and most of them dont see daylight more than a cple times a year.

    the bigger challenge/dilemma ive had is what to do with the daily drivers. ive tried modesta, opti, and a 3rd ceramic. my DDs get put through car washes during the NYC winters and im not convinced there is a right answer. Leaning back towards sealants as the ceramics havent really impressed me.

    but to answer the OP question, carnuba in my opinion is alive and well for anyone whose first priority is color/shine and doesnt care about protection from the elements.

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    Re: Are carnuaba waxes an obsoleted car-care product?? (Continuing on the great debate...)

    I am the Original Poster (OP) to this thread, and first off, I have to thank those of you who continue to post responses and "resurrect" this topic that was started now 3-1/2 years ago!.
    There are related threads and I am posting the link to one of them, just because there is an interest by Autopian detailers in carnauba waxes:
    https://www.autopia.org/forums/waxes...t=#post2146409

    Long live carnauba waxes!
    GB detailer
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    Re: Are carnuaba waxes an obsoleted car-care product?? (Continuing on the great debate...)

    Quote Originally Posted by Swanicyouth View Post
    ^ you guys would LOVE NaviWax Ultimate. It`s very Collinite 915 "like"; but it`s just better than 915 - if you can believe it. It costs more. Since nobody really distributes this stuff in the USA, you have to order it from Europe. But, I think you can get it through Ebay now.

    I tried to get AG to carry it - but nobody seemed interested.
    Is the NaviWax similar to the Soft99 Fusso Coat? (I picked that up recently but have not had a chance to try it yet)

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    Are carnuaba waxes an obsoleted car-care product?? (Continuing on the great debate...)

    Quote Originally Posted by RaydiantDetail View Post
    Is the NaviWax similar to the Soft99 Fusso Coat? (I picked that up recently but have not had a chance to try it yet)
    I don’t think so. Fusso is a sealant from what I gather. Navi is nuba + God knows what. Navi is easy to apply & remove - I don’t think Fusso is. Navi beads really well 5 mos or so. It’s a pleasure to work with & tin is 280g ~ >9oz.

    Worth $100 considering some of the other meh waxes selling in that price range that last a few weeks
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    Re: Are carnuaba waxes an obsoleted car-care product?? (Continuing on the great debate...)

    Fusso is easy if you apply to one panel and immediately buff it off. Do not let it haze over.
    Long lasting but for me it needs Kiwami or something similar over it for more gloss.
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    Re: Are carnuaba waxes an obsoleted car-care product?? (Continuing on the great debate...)

    Thank you both on the fusso coat feedback!
    I`ll definitely do some testing with it. Will look into naviwax as well.

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