ONR v3 LSP Friendly?

**shadow85** · 11-26-2012, 03:46 PM

There has been some concern with previous versions of ONR degrading LSP`s. Does anyone know if v3 more LSP friendly?

**IHA Mark** · 11-26-2012, 04:39 PM

I have not found it to be anymore unfriendly than most normal car wash soaps. A lot of it depends on what type of LSP is on the paint to begin with, and how long its been there.

**Scottwax** · 11-26-2012, 07:41 PM

Never had an issue with any version of ONR and any wax or sealant I`ve used. ONR v3 will keep the paint slick indefinitely it appears.

**Richard Grasa** · 11-26-2012, 09:03 PM

ONR v3 is awesome, I`ve had many customers come out of their house just as I`ve finished washing their car and they say "holy crap, you`re done already, it looks great!". And I`m like, nope just washed it, haven`t even gotten the polisher out yet. I`ve never had any problems with any LSP either with it.

**Accumulator** · 11-27-2012, 12:30 PM

I was the guy who first reported how ONR v2.0 could kill certain Collinites, even when they were nice and fresh...so I`m glad to hear it doesn`t seem to be that way with the v3.0.

But I`m still kinda leaning towards Gary Dean`s IUDJ stuff instead.

**Alfisti** · 11-28-2012, 10:00 AM

Same here...no probs with either v2 or v3 on LSP.

**shadow85** · 11-28-2012, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Accumulator

I was the guy who first reported how ONR v2.0 could kill certain Collinites, even when they were nice and fresh...so I`m glad to hear it doesn`t seem to be that way with the v3.0.

But I`m still kinda leaning towards Gary Dean`s IUDJ stuff instead.

Yes, I wasnt sure if it still affected 845. I heard great things about the IUDJ, but at $160 per gallon, it`s way more expensive than ONR.

**mikenap** · 11-28-2012, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Accumulator

I was the guy who first reported how ONR v2.0 could kill certain Collinites, even when they were nice and fresh...so I`m glad to hear it doesn`t seem to be that way with the v3.0.

But I`m still kinda leaning towards Gary Dean`s IUDJ stuff instead.

I also had issues with ONRv2 and 845, and I believe Umi did as well. FWIW, Garry`s IUDJ is better in every respect to ONR for me.

**Richard Grasa** · 11-28-2012, 11:11 AM

The IUDJ also has many uses that ONR does not. I`ll be giving it a try at some point.

**Accumulator** · 11-28-2012, 11:28 AM

Yeah...I don`t want to jack this thread onto the IUDJ/ONR comparison, but some of the posts on other threads (posts by people whose opinions I consider reliable) make a great case for the IUDJ. Even the cost comparison can be pretty compelling, depending on how you calc/consider it.

**nonwelder** · 11-28-2012, 11:41 AM

I also found ONR to kill my 845. I`ve used other rinseless washes without issues. IUDJ seems interesting, but $$

**Scottwax** · 11-28-2012, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by OneQuickGT1

I also found ONR to kill my 845. I`ve used other rinseless washes without issues. IUDJ seems interesting, but $$

Meguiars NXT Car Wash killed 845 for me. Was using it on a couple cars for that customer I had who insisted I use his reverse osmosis/DI system to wash his cars.

**Richard Grasa** · 11-28-2012, 05:28 PM

Why does stuff kill 845? I`ve always thought of it as a very tough wax and recommend it to alot of people. I`m rethinking that now if things can kill it that easily. Sorry for the hijack, but I have got to know, I don`t want customers coming back and complaining that the wax I told them would last a long time was gone after a wash with NXT or something else.

**umi000** · 11-28-2012, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by mikenap

I also had issues with ONRv2 and 845, and I believe Umi did as well. FWIW, Garry`s IUDJ is better in every respect to ONR for me.

Yep, I had issues with ONR v2 and 845 as well. I haven`t used IUDJ, but I didn`t have those problems with either DP Rinseless or UWW+ (used as a rinseless wash).

**Scottwax** · 11-28-2012, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by ExplicitDetails

Why does stuff kill 845? I`ve always thought of it as a very tough wax and recommend it to alot of people. I`m rethinking that now if things can kill it that easily. Sorry for the hijack, but I have got to know, I don`t want customers coming back and complaining that the wax I told them would last a long time was gone after a wash with NXT or something else.

Honestly, I don`t get the love for 845. Looks really bright and clear so to me its more suited to metallics but my main issue is it isn`t as durable (no matter what I or even a couple customers used to wash) as I was expecting. I like 476 a lot more. Has a richer, deeper look and holds up a lot better. IMO, Collinite 476 doesn`t get nearly the love it deserves around here.