Recommendation Request - Glaze before Sealant and Spray Wax

[PointyStick]

Hello



About every six months I give my car (old photos) a claying and polishing, then follow up with two coats of Menzerna Power Lock Polymer Sealant, then two coats of P21S 100% Carnauba Wax. About every 1-2 months I reapply the P21S.



This time I am going to give Dodo Juice Diamond White Hard Wax a try instead of the P21S, just for kicks.



Looking at add a Glaze before the sealant, any recommendations? From some research it appears that not all Glazes can be used prior to sealants, it appears that Chemical Guys Extreme EZ-Creme Glaze with Acrylic Shine II can be used as it is not oil based. Any thoughts? Any other recommendations?



Also looking for a spray wax to use after washes, between the monthly waxes. Thinking Dodo Juice Red Mist Tropical Protection Detailer. Again any thoughts? Any other recommendations?

[Envious Eric]

CG EZCG is my go to for paint prep before sealant



optimum car wax is my spray wax go to



chemical guys V07 is my favorite spray sealant

[Scottwax]

If you want something fully compatible, Optimum Finish as your glaze, Opti-Seal as the sealant and Optimum Car Wax as your spray wax. The Werkstat line can do the same as well, Prime, Acrylic Jett and Carnauba Jett.

[DM101]

The CG would work but I like Menzerna PO85RD with a finishing pad. This will remove and clean the finish and give it a awesome finish and look for your Power Lock. This is a neck turner combo.

If you want something fully compatible, Optimum Finish as your glaze, Opti-Seal as the sealant and Optimum Car Wax as your spray wax. The Werkstat line can do the same as well, Prime, Acrylic Jett and Carnauba Jett.

[Accumulator]

..The Werkstat line can do the same as well, Prime, Acrylic Jett and Carnauba Jett.

Does the Prime do glazey-stuff like filling? I thought of it as, uhm....a better version of something like KAIO.

The CG would work but I like Menzerna PO85RD with a finishing pad. This will remove and clean the finish and give it a awesome finish and look for your Power Lock.

Same type of here...I don`t think of finishing polishes being real substitutes for glazes, at least not "clean" polishes like the Menzerna.



Not that, heh heh, I really have any better suggestions! Maybe the current version of Danase`s Glaze or the Gloss Enhancing Polish from the BF line (seemed like a cross between polish and sealant-friendly glaze to me).

[akimel]

You might consider Danase Wet Glaze.

[DM101]

If your doing this every 6 months I would use something with a little cleaning power..... Thus my suggestion of PO85RD.... Optimum Cax Wax is a excellant spray wax. Good luck..

[Dan]

Autoglym SRP is a nice setup too.

[PointyStick]

The CG would work but I like Menzerna PO85RD with a finishing pad. This will remove and clean the finish and give it a awesome finish and look for your Power Lock. This is a neck turner combo.

If your doing this every 6 months I would use something with a little cleaning power..... Thus my suggestion of PO85RD.... Optimum Cax Wax is a excellant spray wax. Good luck..

Actually already us Menzerna PO85RD as my last polishing step.



Maybe I have this wrong, but my thought is the Glaze will be "sealed in" by the sealant layer, then by maintaining a wax layer this protects the sealant layer? I really dont have the time with kids etc to three step finish (Glaze,Sealant, Wax) my car every 1-2 months, which is why I use the wax layer to maintain the car and a full blown detail every 6 months (Spring and Fall). Also my understanding is sealant cant follow a wax layer, as the sealant will not bond.



FYI - Typically only drive on weekends, I would guess less then 10,000 km a year.

[Envious Eric]

a true glaze will not allow the sealant to bond, so you wont be sealing anything in. Meguiars #7 for example will not let a sealant bond to the paint, but instead it will lay on top of the glaze fillers/oils, so it will wash away rather quickly. You would be better off with a carnuba at that point to take advantage of the oily look it gives to paint (wetness)

[Accumulator]

pointystick- I sympathize with your need to *not* let this stuff consume your life. I`d just skip the whole glaze thing and I`d also just use one LSP, sealant or wax, reapplied as needed (which might not be that often). I hardly *ever* have to redo the LSP on my vehicles, even the daily drivers, because I use reasonably durable stuff.

[Ron Ketcham]

a true glaze will not allow the sealant to bond, so you wont be sealing anything in. Meguiars #7 for example will not let a sealant bond to the paint, but instead it will lay on top of the glaze fillers/oils, so it will wash away rather quickly. You would be better off with a carnuba at that point to take advantage of the oily look it gives to paint (wetness)

Absolutely CORRECT!

Applying a sealant over a glaze DOES NOT ALLOW IT TO BOND OR COMPLETELY CURE, due to the oils used in a glaze.

Grumpy

[DM101]

Ron not questioning your answer, for I have heard the same. But where or who determined this ???

Absolutely CORRECT!

Applying a sealant over a glaze DOES NOT ALLOW IT TO BOND OR COMPLETELY CURE, due to the oils used in a glaze.

Grumpy

[Ron Ketcham]

How about Floyd Mequiar, who with his grandfather, Frank, developed the famous Mequiar`s #7?

Also, my three chemists from when I was still working with ValuGard.

Just can`t bond to the paint surface, think about when painting a car and if there are silicone oils, etc present-paint won`t bond, as shown by the "fish-eyes" in the surface.

Grumpy

[Accumulator]

On this Meguiar`s/bonding topic, I`ve always wondered about the supposed compatibility between their Pure Polishes (like good ol` #7, didn`t know that Floyd was involved in that one) and their sealants. I`ve used NXT over such products, and no the NXT didn`t clean the underlying stuff away, or appear to suffer any from its presence, but I`ve never tried one of their sealants like M20.