Latest Acquisition: Meguiar`s M101

**Alfisti** · 01-05-2012, 10:44 AM

I asked about this compound over on MOL. This was Michael Stoops reply (found here), with interesting background info:

OK, we`ll try to distill down the discussions that have taken place on other forums after some folks managed to obtain this European only formula here in the USA.

This is the first product that Meguiar`s actually developed outside the US. It was still created by our chemists here in Irvine, CA, but we actually shipped our lead man for the project to Europe, along with a mini lab set up, so that he could quickly respond to testing and inputs and tweak the formula as needed. Pretty cool stuff, actually.

* What is M101 designed for? Rotary buffing with a dedicated foam pad on European aftermarket (ie, body shop) paint.

* Why "European" aftermarket paint? Because, unlike factory paint which is the same whether the car is sold in Europe, North America or Asia, aftermarket paints vary in different parts of the world. It`s a high solids versus low solids situation with these different paints, and that can require different compound formulations to achieve maximum results. Oh, and for the record, factory paint is vastly different from a chemistry standpoint than the paint used in a body shop. If a body shop, whether in Europe or North America, were to shoot factory paint it would virtually never cure due to a body shops inability to bake it at sufficient heat and for sufficient time. It`s just not economically feasible for a body shop to have that sort of equipment.

* Why "dedicated foam pad"? While use of a wool pad is commonplace here in the US for sanding mark and swirl removal, in European body shops they almost never use wool. And rarely do they compound the entire vehicle - it`s mostly spot repair following a repaint, and it`s almost always with a foam pad. They also tend to run the rotary at fairly low rpm. So we`ve developed a dedicated foam pad to use with this compound, taking into account the cultural toward low speed rotary and anti wool bias.

* Why did we send a chemist and mini lab to Europe? Lead time, really. Imagine if we sent product over there, had it tested, then had to tweak and send a new batch across the pond, repeat, repeat, repeat? It would have taken months. And we couldn`t do the testing here because the aftermarket paint used in Europe is very different from that used here, due to environmental regulations.

So basically what we have here is a product developed for a very specific type of paint system and a pretty specific work flow. That a handful of guys have imported this back to the US (it is made domestically, just like all the rest of our products) and are finding success with it using either wool or microfiber pads is interesting, to say the least. At the moment we have no solid plans to introduce this product to the US market.

**RaskyR1** · 01-05-2012, 10:58 AM

Looks like I really need to try out my sample tonight!

**David Fermani** · 01-05-2012, 11:10 AM

Be interested to know how much more paint you can level/abrade away with M101 as opposed to D300 with 1 identical pass.

**RaskyR1** · 01-05-2012, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by David Fermani

Be interested to know how much more paint you can level/abrade away with M101 as opposed to D300 with 1 identical pass.

One of the things I plan to test soon. I`m in the process of making a bracket that mounts on my DA (directly over head/shaft) that will hold 5 and 10 lb weights, taking out the variable of inconsistent downward pressure between test sections.

**David Fermani** · 01-05-2012, 11:34 AM

Sweet. Knowing how great a job your do with the documentation, it should be an awsome test.

**C. Charles Hahn** · 01-05-2012, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by RaskyR1

One of the things I plan to test soon. I`m in the process of making a bracket that mounts on my DA (directly over head/shaft) that will hold 5 and 10 lb weights, taking out the variable of inconsistent downward pressure between test sections.

One step closer to a "Roomba" DA polisher that runs itself

**RaskyR1** · 01-05-2012, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by David Fermani

Sweet. Knowing how great a job your do with the documentation, it should be an awsome test.

Hope so....Should go well with my new test fixtures! Painted up some sheet pans for product testing (pads/polish/wet sanding...), one set with a high dollar HS clear, and the other set with a cheap clear.

After some wet sanding.

Originally Posted by C. Charles Hahn

One step closer to a "Roomba" DA polisher that runs itself

LOL! I wish!

**BigAl3** · 01-05-2012, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin Brown

smoknfastlegend

In regards to your signature quote...

"I am coming for your DA polisher:

I have killed 3 Meguiars G110v2`s (all cord failures) and 2 Griots polishers (from motor destruction)."

All I can say is :dance::dance::dance:"RUPES, shoop-e-doop..!" :dance: :dance: :dance:

Ma` BIGFOOT got a 21mm stroke, and THAT my friend AIN`T no JOKE! :hat:

Coming soon to a theater near you.

kevin, i look forward to your review on the the rupes DA. i may kiss the flex goodbye...

**justin30513** · 01-05-2012, 04:03 PM

Damn! That pan thing is awesome!

**MusicMan** · 01-05-2012, 10:06 PM

ive subscribed lol

**C. Charles Hahn** · 01-13-2012, 02:24 PM

Got a pleasant surprise this morning:

Sorry, all of this is already sold/spoken for; those of you who have spoken, expect to hear from me later today with payment details.

In the meantime, "ALL YOUR M101 ARE BELONG TO ME!!"

**MusicMan** · 01-13-2012, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by C. Charles Hahn

Got a pleasant surprise this morning:

Sorry, all of this is already sold/spoken for; those of you who have spoken, expect to hear from me later today with payment details.

In the meantime, "ALL YOUR M101 ARE BELONG TO ME!!"

lol sweet... just send me a picture of one so i can pretend