CD-2 Discontinued

[akimel]

Someone recently observed that CD-2 Engine Detailer was no longer available at the Turtle Wax website, so I emailed them and today received an email confirming that the product has been discontinued. My engine detailing is limited to my two vehicles, so I do not have a lot of experience; but I have been very pleased with the results I have gotten from the product and am sorry to see it discontinued.



Possible substitutes come to mind: Pig Spit, Stoner Trim Shine, Megs` HyperDressing, 303 Protectant. What do you like?

[lasthope05]

So....its being discontinued again? For sure this time? This has happened at least 2 times and both times I went out and bought the remaining stock at my local store.



I find Stoners trim shine to be a nice replacement but doesnt have the durability. Same with Megs HD at 3:1.

[DM101]

A product like it Blue Coral/12.5 oz. CD-2 spray engine detailer (4516-6) | Engine Degreaser | AutoZone.com I bought 2 cans I have not used. It is not CD-2 !! Maybe someone can provide a quick review.

[DM101]

found some here $8.50 can and $9.00 to ship Amazon.com: Turtle Wax 45166 Engine Treatment 12.5 oz.: Automotive

[C. Charles Hahn]

Seems like every time they say it`s being discontinued it comes back, but who knows?!

[Ron Ketcham]

I never have used the product, but if I were, I would have obtained a legitimate MSDS for it.

Suspect there may have been a couple of components in it that with the VOC requirements of many states changing, it was no longer viable to produce and market the product.

Grumpy

[David Fermani]

I never have used the product, but if I were, I would have obtained a legitimate MSDS for it.

Suspect there may have been a couple of components in it that with the VOC requirements of many states changing, it was no longer viable to produce and market the product.

Grumpy

Don`t think I`d want to use it in an engine compartment!!!:nervous:



MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET

1. PRODUCT AND COMPANY IDENTICATION

PRODUCT NAME CD-2 Engine Detailer

PRODUCT CODE 4516

CHEMICAL FAMILY Petroleum Distillates

CHEMICAL NAME Complex Mixture of Hydrocarbons

FORMULA Mixture

MANUFACTURER EMERGENCY TELEPHONE NUMBERS

CD-2 Company Transportation:

625 Willowbrook Centre Parkway CHEMTREC: 800-424-9300

Willowbrook, IL 60527 Medical:

Phone: 630-455-3866 Contact Local Poison Control Center

Fax: 630-455-3868

2. POSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS

COMPONENT CAS NUMBER CONCENTRATION (wt %)

Petroleum Distillates 64742-48-9 60 – 70

Propane 00074-98-6 10 – 15

Isobutane 00075-28-5 10 - 15

EXPOSURE LIMITS 8 hrs. TWA(ppm)

OSHA PEL ACGIH TLV

Petroleum Distillates 100 ppm 100 ppm

Propane 1000 ppm 1000 ppm

Isobutane 800 ppm 800 ppm

3. HAZARDS IDENTIFICATION

POTENTIAL HEALTH EFFECTS

INHALATION: Can cause nasal and respiratory irritation, dizziness, weakness, fatigue, nausea,

headaches, possible unconsciousness and even asphyxiation.

INGESTION: Can cause gastrointestinal irritation, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. Aspiration into lungs

can cause pneumonitis which can be fatal.

SKIN CONTACT: Prolonged or repeated contact can cause moderate irritation, defatting or dermatitis.

EYE CONTACT: Can cause severe irritation, redness, tearing or blurred vision.

4. FIRST AID MEASURES

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EYE: Flush with large amounts of water, lifting upper and lower eyelids occasionally. Get medical

attention.

SKIN: Thoroughly wash exposed area with soap and water. Remove contaminated clothing. Launder

before re-use.

INHALATION: Remove person to fresh air. If breathing difficult, administer oxygen. If breathing has

stopped, give artificial respiration. Keep person warm and quiet. Call a physician.

INGESTION: Do not induce vomiting. Keep person quiet and warm. Get medical attention. Aspiration

of material into lungs can cause chemical pneumonitis which can be fatal.

5. FIRE FIGHTING MEASURES

FLASH POINT: Flame length in excess of 18 inches, with visible flash back to nozzle by CPSC test

16CFR1500.3(c))(vii); rated extremely flammable.

EXTINGUISHING MEDIA: Carbon dioxide, dry chemical, foam.

SPECIAL FIRE FIGHTING PROCEDURES: Aerosol cans are under pressure, can explode when

heated above 120°F and can become projectiles. Treat contents as flammable liquid/explosive vapor fire.

Keep unignited containers cool with water. Vapors are heavier than air, may collect in low areas, and may

travel to distant source of ignition and flashback.

6. ACCIDENTIAL RELEASE MEASURES

SPILL OR LEAK PROCEDURES: Ventilate area. Remove sources of ignition. Prevent entry into

sewers and waterways. Pick up free liquid for recycle and/or disposal. Absorb small amounts on inert

material for disposal.

7. HANDLING AND STORAGE

STORAGE TEMPERATURE (MIN./MAX.): 21 º F (-6 º C)/ 113 º F (45 C)

SHELF LIFE: 3 years minimum when the original container is kept tightly closed and properly stored.

SPECIAL SENSITIVITY: None.

HANDLING AND STORAGE PRECAUTIONS: Avoid storing or heating above recommended

temperatures.

8. EXPOSURE CONTROLS/PERSONAL PROTECTION

EYE PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS: Splash goggles.

SKIN PROTECTION REQUIREMENTS: Wear chemically resistant gloves.

RESPIRATOR/VENTILATION REQUIREMENTS: Provide sufficient ventilation to avoid exposure

levels above the established TLV’s.

EXPOSURE LIMITS: Not established for product as whole.

Petroleum Distillates OSHA 100 ppm

Propane OSHA 1000 ppm

Isobutane OSHA 800 ppm

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PHYSICAL AND CHEMICAL PROPERTIES

PHYSICAL FORM: Liquid in aerosol container

COLOR: Clear water white thin liquid

ODOR: Fruity odor

BOILING POINT: -40°F (-40°C)

MELT / FREEZE POINT Not Determined

PH: Not applicable

SOLUBILITY IN WATER: Insoluble

SPECIFIC GRAVITY: 0.690 @ 60 º F (15.6 º C)

% VOLATILE BY WEIGHT: 80 %

VAPOR PRESSURE: 35 – 45 psig @ 70°F

VAPOR DENSITY: Not determined

10. REACTIVITY

STABILITY: Stable

HAZARDOUS POLYMERIZATION: Will not occur.

INCOMPATIBILITIES: Strong oxidizing agents and acids.

DECOMPOSITION PRODUCTS: Carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide and hydrocarbons.

11. TOXICOLOGICAL INFORMATION

ACUTE INHALATION: Aspiration into lungs can cause pneumonitis which can be fatal.

CHRONIC INHALATION: Not determined.

ACUTE SKIN CONTACT: Prolonged or repeated contact can cause moderate irritation, defatting or

dermatitis.

CHRONIC SKIN CONTACT: Not determined.

ACUTE EYE CONTACT: Can cause severe irritation, redness, tearing or blurred vision.

12. ECOLOGICAL INFORMATION

No data available.

13. DISPOSAL CONSIDERATIONS

Ignitable hazardous waste, EPA Hazardous Waste Number D001

WASTE DISPOSAL METHOD: Dispose of product in accordance with all local, state and federal laws

and regulations.

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14. TRANSPORT INFORMATION

DOT INFORMATION:

PROPER SHIPPING NAME: Non Bulk Not regulated

Bulk Aerosol 30

TECHNICAL SHIPPING NAME: Consumer Commodity

HAZARD CLASS: Non Bulk ORM-D

Bulk 2.1

UN NUMBER: UN 1950

PRODUCT RQ (lbs): None

LABEL: Non Bulk ORM-D

Bulk Flammable gas

PLACARD: Non Bulk ORM-D

Bulk Aerosols

FREIGHT CLASS BULK: Aerosol 30

FREIGHT CLASS PACKAGE: None

PRODUCT LABEL None

15. REGULATORY INFORMATION

TSCA STATUS: All ingredients listed.

CERCLA REPORTABLE QUANTITY: None

SARA TITLE III:

SECTION 302 EXTREMELY

HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCES None

SECTION 311/312

HAZARD CATEGORIES

Acute Health Yes

Chronic Health Yes

Fire Yes

Reactive No

Sudden Release of Pressure Yes

SECTION 313

CHEMICAL NAME CAS NUMBER CONCENTRATION

None

RCRA STATUS: If discarded in its purchased form, this product would be an ignitable waste with an

EPA Hazardous Waste Number of D001. However, under RCRA, it is the responsibility of the product

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user to determine at the time of disposal, whether a material containing this product should be classified as

a hazardous waste. (40CFR261.20-24)

CANADIAN STATUS: All materials contained in this product are listed on the Canadian Domestic

Substances List and are in compliance with the Canadian Environmental Protection Act.

EUROPEAN UNION: All materials contained in this product are listed on EINECS.

STATE REGULATORY INFORMATION

The following chemicals are specifically listed by individual states; other product specific health and safety

data in other sections of the MSDS may also be applicable for state requirements. For details on your

regulatory requirements you should contact the appropriate agency in your state.

COMPONENT/

CAS NUMBER CONCENTRATION STATE CODE

none

CA = Material known to the state of California to cause cancer and/or birth defects. (California Proposition

65).

16. OTHER INFORMATION

HMIS CLASSIFICATION Health 1

Flammability 4

Reactivity 0

PPI B

NFPA RATING Health 1

Fire 4

Reactivity 0

Special None

REASON FOR ISSUE Revise address, phone and fax numbers

PREPARED BY Richard P. Kelly

TITLE Technical Manager

APPROVAL DATE February 12, 2007

SUPERCEDES DATE October 7, 2004

REVISION NUMBER #03

This information is to the best of CD-2’s Company’s knowledge and belief, accurate and reliable.

However, no representation, warranty, or guarantee is made to its accuracy, reliability or completeness. It

is the users responsibility to satisfy himself as to the suitableness and completeness of such information for

his own particular use.

[Bill D]

Speaking of MSDSs, I wonder what the deal is with these products coming from Korea. Do they need one to be sold here? I`d be very nervous about using them in an engine compartment without safety documentation.

[Ron Ketcham]

Thanks, I think the MSDS pretty well explains why in this "litigation" happy society and modern VOC regulations, it was no longer a product they wished to put on the market.

The potential liability to them does not justify the marketing of the product.

Grumpy

[Ron Ketcham]

What the manufacturer in Korea does is one thing, what the US distributor does is another.

The US distributor/marketing company must provide MSDS information to ANY ONE who request such.

If they do not, and the correct US goverment agency is notified, WOW, what a thing to face and say "good bye" to some big-a-bucks with the fine.

Recall the "tire issue" a couple of years back?

The US distributor was taken down with the fines, recalls, etc and the owners are still attempting to hide their responsibility behind some corp. laws.

It ain`t working, according to what I have read, they got a zillion dollar problem.

Grumpy

[David Fermani]

Thanks, I think the MSDS pretty well explains why in this "litigation" happy society and modern VOC regulations, it was no longer a product they wished to put on the market.

The potential liability to them does not justify the marketing of the product.

Grumpy

You trying to tell me that:

Petroleum Distillates 64742-48-9 60 – 70

Propane 00074-98-6 10 – 15

Isobutane 00075-28-5 10 - 15



SPECIAL FIRE FIGHTING PROCEDURES: Aerosol cans are under pressure, can explode when

heated above 120°F and can become projectiles. Treat contents as flammable liquid/explosive vapor fire.



Bulk Flammable gas

Fire Yes

isn`t a good characteristic of a product used around engine compartments? :flame:

[Ron Ketcham]

You trying to tell me that:





isn`t a good characteristic of a product used around engine compartments? :flame:

What about those who use it and the health???? Acute/Chronic?

Bad stuff, Willard!

Grumpy

[C. Charles Hahn]

What about those who use it and the health???? Acute/Chronic?

Bad stuff, Willard!

Grumpy

I`ve been using it for a long time... I`m fine.

[Ron Ketcham]

I`ve been using it for a long time... I`m fine.

As were the Roman`s using lead to sweeten their wine, painters who when the solvents and iscyo`s were changed, for a while.

It won`t kill you today or in a month, no, unless it were to ignite, then, well ,either your eye brows grow back or you get very hot.

Over time, some things that seem so non-damaging now, will end up shorten what your life may be.



I screw up all the time, however, since I do have some appreciation of what chemicals will do to the human body, I do take some precautions, and Jack Daniels and water is very good for flushing the system of bad things.

Just a little head`s up on how to deal with all things that don`t always go as one desires.

Grumpy

[Bill D]

I just don`t want there to have to eventually be a Grumpy`s AA intervention :nono: