Do I have to wash the car after applying AG SRP and waiting 24 hours to put on AGHD?

**Z06Seal** · 12-29-2010, 12:50 PM

I just got some AG HD for sale at walmart for 20 bucks, and going to pepboys now to pick up some AG SRP to put on as a 1st coat after clay barring the car...

after I clay bar and put the SRP on, I`m supposed to wait 24 hours according to this thread. well when I do wait 20 hours (might be closer to 20 hours actually for me lol) do I need to wash the car again? or can I take some QD and spray it on there to wipe off dust that accumulated on the 24 hours...

I`m not sure if QD would be a good idea since I`ll be putting on a layer of polymers from teh QD spray which might make it hard for the AGHD wax/polymers to bond to the SRP underneath it, so I guess I`ll have to wash again?

FYI, I don`t have a garage, so the car WILL be sitting outside for the 24 hour cure process. I don`t have a choice.

I will wash the car with blue dawn before clay bar, but after that I will be using turtle wax car wash. if you can reccomend another OTC car wash, I`ll take it. but I think this turtle wax works pretty good. I have amazing things about that turtle wax ICE car wash as well though.

This is the car wash soap I`ll be using once the car has been SRP`d and following car washes with the AGHD on it in the future.

**Accumulator** · 12-29-2010, 02:03 PM

Z06Seal- The trick with washing will be to clean the car without stripping off the SRP (which isn`t too durable by itself). The trick with QDing will be more a matter of not instilling marring. I wouldn`t worry too much about the QD leaving something behind, that`s seldom a significant issue in cases like this.

I can`t help but wonder how it`d go if you did the SRP, waited a few hours, and went ahead and applied the wax over the presumably uncured SRP :think:

As for shampoos, the usual OTC answer is Meguiar`s Gold Class, unless some place near you sells DuraGloss. I wouldn`t underestimate the benefits of a good shampoo; I find it downright critical for washing without instilling new marring (not as critical as good wash technique though

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**Z06Seal** · 12-29-2010, 02:50 PM

walmart is going to hate me. I bought swirl X, and just returned it. came back with turtle wax ICE wash. now I`m gonna go back, return it and get duragloss wash from NAPA. before I know it, there will be something else I should get and then return LOL

Hmm, I`m thinking now.

how about I wake up nice and early in the morning on friday, do the whole process around 7am. by 9, I should have a coat of SRP on the car.

then I can wait until 5pm or so and then put on a coat of AGHD. that`s 8 hours of cure time during daytime.

if I do the SRP now, I`ll have to wait until tomorrow morning do to the AGHD. it`ll be too dark by then.

ahhh how I wish I had a garage now :mad2:

**Accumulator** · 12-29-2010, 03:01 PM

Z06Seal- I think I like that marathon-session-on-Friday idea. But note that everything takes longer than you expect

Oh, and while it`s easy for me to waste *your* money, I`d just save that TW shampoo for use on non-critical areas like wheelwells and the undercarriage; that`s how I use up my also-ran shampoos. I men, how much $ do you have it it? Really worth taking it back? Heh heh, between gas and my time it wouldn`t be worth it for me, but that`s just me.

**Z06Seal** · 12-29-2010, 03:39 PM

I just want to get this started! lol

alright, I`ll do this tomorrow early morning, and then I have a bunch of errands to do during the day. while I`m doing that, the SRP will bond and cure best as it can. by around 5, I should be done, and I`ll throw on a coat of AGHD.

the SRP will just have to hurry up and cure best as it can. it`ll have 10 hours to cure. depending on how tired my arms are (and maybe the gf will be willing to help) I might do the ice water technique. that def does sound messy. (water and wax!? WHAT!?)

you`re right, it is only 4 bucks. (TW wash)

I actually meant the TW Ice wash which pretty much cost as much as the gold class.

**schiddy** · 12-29-2010, 04:36 PM

Don`t sealants take longer to cure when it`s cold out? Where are you located, what are temps going to be?

**Z06Seal** · 12-29-2010, 04:43 PM

I`m in South FL. temps tomorrow will be low mid 70s

**schiddy** · 12-29-2010, 06:22 PM

Oh you`re fine then, lucky! Up here It`s so cold I don`t think I can even get away with an LSP.

**Z06Seal** · 12-29-2010, 06:50 PM

Yes I am

it`ll cool back down in a few days. back to 30s

**gigondaz** · 12-30-2010, 05:29 AM

FYI, when I use AG SRP, I always Polycharge it first to enable rapid curing.

**Z06Seal** · 12-30-2010, 03:41 PM

how do I do that? I PM`d ya about it and few other Qs

it has to be with someone OTC if I can do it...

**Polishing Booth** · 12-31-2010, 11:09 AM

I was trained by a Chap called Aidie Potts and he`s the Chief Trainer for Autoglym UK and looks after jamiroquai Front Man Jay Kay Ferrari Enzo, You don`t need to wait till the following day to apply HD WAX after SRP, There`s no reason why it cant be applied straight after, However make sure you allow the HD to Cure as it can leave some oils behind if you don`t that tend to look like smudges on the paint.

Michael

**dschia** · 12-31-2010, 12:32 PM

I just topped any wax/sealant (including 3 pots of HD wax) immediately after buffing SRP. Doesn`t seems like having any problem. Interesting that you mentioned about the smudges. When you say allow the HD to cure, you mean leave it on long enough on the paintwork before buffing? I always encounter smudges with HD, as much as once every 4 cars. I had no choice but to give up this great wax and change to another lsp just because I worry customer will think I screw up their paint when they see smudges.

**Accumulator** · 12-31-2010, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Polishing Booth

I was trained by a Chap called Aidie Potts and he`s the Chief Trainer for Autoglym UK and looks after jamiroquai Front Man Jay Kay Ferrari Enzo, You don`t need to wait till the following day to apply HD WAX after SRP, There`s no reason why it cant be applied straight after..

Welcome to Autopia!

Hey, that`s neat..your getting trained by the guy from Autoglym UK. Good to know about it being OK to immediately top SRP. I never *noticed* any issues from doing it, but it`s still good to have the "official word" on the subject.

Those "smudges" sound like the blooming you can get from some LSPs...Vintage/etc. come to mind and that`s one reason why I`ve shied away from those products.

**Polishing Booth** · 01-01-2011, 06:43 AM

The smudges are dead easy to remove just spray Quick Detailer and wipe with a MF Cloth, The`re annoying more than anything else and show easily on Black!