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    I was in the car dealership the other day and saw the sticker for "never wax again" I couldn`t help but be curious. I asked the sales guy and he said its a teflon coating and its warranted for 5 yrs. I am very skeptical and just curious what everyone thinks about this stuff.

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    Teflon is not a viable paint protectant. You are right to be skeptical and the sales guy is either an idiot or in on the scam.
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    Plenty of threads on the subject of dealer "teflon coatings." I think there`s one started almost every other day. They all end the same way: don`t waste your money.

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    For a teflon coating to be applied onto the paint, it would be heated past the point of the paint melting off of the car. The only good product sold at dealerships is Matrix Micro Coatings. Xzilon, Resist-All, and others are all a scam.





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    Is it the TST5000? I have a bottle of that and I dont believe it will last five years, but I would not pay $500 to have it applied on a new car. I guess is not bad, but not superb either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnKleven
    The only good product sold at dealerships is Matrix Micro Coatings. Xzilon, Resist-All, and others are all a scam.





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    What others dealer sealants have your personally tried in comparison? Aren`t you an application center for Matrix?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Fermani
    What others dealer sealants have your personally tried in comparison? Aren`t you an application center for Matrix?


    According to his website he is:



    New Car Protection



    I like your free loaner car service BTW. That`s a nice touch! :up

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    Yup, and I have tried them all. And don`t worry, I`m not trying to sell this product to anyone here, as I can`t sell it to detailers anyways. There were a few other interesting products I saw at SEMA this year, but they were marketed towards detailers unlike all the other products that are marketed towards auto dealerships. I now only train dealerships how to apply the Matrix coating.





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    However, if you could figure out how to get teflon on a car, it would be like a nonstick frying pan, and would be very easy to clean.





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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnKleven
    Yup, and I have tried them all.


    Which ones? "All" is a pretty broad statement. Maybe you`ve tried enough to make the conclusion that Matrix is the best choice?

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    Matrix seems like a typical glass coat from asia - like the G´zox, or glazcoat as they call it in the states G`ZOX Armor Glazcoat(TM)

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    The TST stuff was pretty lousy when I had it on on a new vehicle, but that was back in the late `80s.

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    Let`s put it this way. Any coating that gives a warranty for x amount of years, but comes with a refresher pack so you must reapply the product, is a hoax in my book. If they`re going to warranty a product for 3 years, but you have to reapply the product every six months to keep your warranty, then you`re really not warrantying anything. A 3 year, or 5 year warranty should last for 3 or 5 years. Period.





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    What are the excuses that Matrix provides when it doesn`t live up to its claims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnKleven
    Let`s put it this way. Any coating that gives a warranty for x amount of years, but comes with a refresher pack so you must reapply the product, is a hoax in my book. If they`re going to warranty a product for 3 years, but you have to reapply the product every six months to keep your warranty, then you`re really not warrantying anything. A 3 year, or 5 year warranty should last for 3 or 5 years. Period.





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    If you have to reapply it every 6months, well I can do that at a fraction of the cost with UPGP or Opti-Seal to name a few.
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