Where`s the "Really impressed with Meguiar`s as of late" thread?

**Lumadar** · 03-26-2009, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by DavidB

Right now I`m curious why there was a sudden change in the products he promoted. Seems odd, but I`ll give the benefit of the doubt while I figure it out.

So, while at first glance it may appear the community is loosing good information, wouldn`t it be nice to know you`re not having the wool pulled over your eyes?

By the way. I could be completely wrong here. If I am, I will make a public apology.

Wasn`t he banned from MOL? :nervous: Doesn`t seem like a likely candidate to promote their products...

**Barry Theal** · 03-26-2009, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by bwalker25

while I agree his wealth of knowledge and his detailing ability are top notch. lets all understand many other people are just as smart and know just as much. one man doesn`t make or break this community.

I will miss his threads, and the like...but the community will go on.

I agree! to me these forums are about learning more, educating others, meeting great guys who share my passion, sharing my work. veiwing others, i can`t believe such a place exsisted! lol this autopia is a detailers heaven. i built a few relationships with people on here that are unsurpassed! i have people call me for advice. i called others for advice. this to me is a place i would probaly pay to join! david please don`t think about that! lol this place keep me in check and also gives me a place to unwind. it truely is my home away from my home almost lol! if your as passionate about this detailing stuff as me. you would understand! todd is an outstanding detailer! that is proven! but i think we all got so hyped up on his knowledge that we forget that there are others out there just as good as him! its obvious he cares to help others, he has helped me, at the same time we all make desicions that can affect us both personally and on a professional level! whether your a car enthusist or someone who does this full time! if what is said is true. that was todds choice not ours. all good things come to end adventually, my father always said its easier to fall off the ladder then it is to climb back up after the fall! maybe we can all take this into perspective and enjoy what thiis amazing internet site truley is! a great place to be a part off! and i wish todd the best off luck on his journey! thanks david b. you gave me something to be apart off!!

barry theal

**imported_Bence** · 03-26-2009, 08:02 PM

Did someone save the glass polishing post?

**imported_Jakerooni** · 03-26-2009, 08:02 PM

Obviously something is going on here that the masses aren`t really allowed to know yet. I thought it was funny he was sales pitching Meguires like he did but it didn`t affect me at all. The information Todd provided was great. Who cares what product he pushed? I never paid attention to it. I never cared what he used from week to week. It really had little to nothing at all to do with his details. remember in true detailing it`s always 90% process and only 10% product. Todd showed the process to everyone. Some agreed with it some didn`t but I don`t think anyone could disagree with the final result. I think the only thing that would be damaging to Todd is to find out he wasn`t the one detailing the cars. And Since there are vids of him doing that I don`t see that ever being an issue. Weather I like him or not I`ve never seen anyone do a write up like him Not only did he tell us step by step what he did by he also told us WHY he did it. To loose that kind of information I think will be very damaging to this site. There are a lot of great detailers on here but I don`t know of a single one anywhere close to being as thorough in his write ups as Todd was. And that`s the key difference between "Bragging" and "Teaching"

Wether Todd gets back on or not is really not the point. The information he left for others to learn from is vital I think. I hope you can find a way to revive at least his C&B`s for the rest of the forum to learn from. Seems like a daughting task considering the bits of info you`ve told us Dave. But I hope there`s a chance.

**akimel** · 03-26-2009, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Bence

Did someone save the glass polishing post?

Bence, that particular article was also posted at the Corvette Forum. It is also temporarily saved in the Google cache.

**imported_Bence** · 03-26-2009, 08:54 PM

Thanks! In the meantime I`ve found it also in the Google cache.

**Scottwax** · 03-26-2009, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by biolink

Throw me a bone here....What do you know?:secret

I think I will let DavidB handle it.

**BIOLINK** · 03-26-2009, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by Scottwax

I think I will let DavidB handle it.

I know, and totally understand. I won`t

about it or anything. If you told me, I`d tell someone, and they`d tell someone and the whole thing would become something it`s not. :nono We`ll just all stay cool and Autopia will roll on.

:tumblewee

**imported_billzabub** · 03-26-2009, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by bufferbarry

I agree! to me these forums are about learning more, educating others, meeting great guys who share my passion, sharing my work. veiwing others, i can`t believe such a place exsisted! lol this autopia is a detailers heaven. i built a few relationships with people on here that are unsurpassed! i have people call me for advice. i called others for advice. this to me is a place i would probaly pay to join! david please don`t think about that! lol this place keep me in check and also gives me a place to unwind. it truely is my home away from my home almost lol! if your as passionate about this detailing stuff as me. you would understand! todd is an outstanding detailer! that is proven! but i think we all got so hyped up on his knowledge that we forget that there are others out there just as good as him! its obvious he cares to help others, he has helped me, at the same time we all make desicions that can affect us both personally and on a professional level! whether your a car enthusist or someone who does this full time! if what is said is true. that was todds choice not ours. all good things come to end adventually, my father always said its easier to fall off the ladder then it is to climb back up after the fall! maybe we can all take this into perspective and enjoy what thiis amazing internet site truley is! a great place to be a part off! and i wish todd the best off luck on his journey! thanks david b. you gave me something to be apart off!!

barry theal

dawt! ...well put Barry.

**jordanrossbell** · 03-26-2009, 10:08 PM

yeah Scott nice call on keeping it to yourself...who knows what to think about this at this point..my question is that if it is every brought to light, is it going to be public knowledge?

**imported_Detailing Technology** · 03-27-2009, 05:21 AM

I think we danced around the answer on page 2.

Possibly something went down at Detail Fest to initiate an investigation?

Scott you tease - What kind of guy would post that he knows the info, but isn`t talking about it? - forget it Scott, I read you were called by someone, you dont actually know.

While I never had a problem with Todd at all, his posts were beautiful, I want to know what all of the consumer-advocate white knights are up to now?

Your man is up againt the ropes for the standing 8 and he needs you.

You were there for him when that kid from Canada detailed/damaged a Lambo on Todds "turf", but where are you now?

Good lesson here: know who your friends are.

**gmblack3** · 03-27-2009, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by Scottwax

I just got off the phone with someone who shed a lot of light on the situation but I`ll keep my mouth shut since I can`t independently verify what was told to me. I do believe that DavidB was already aware of what I`ve heard. :nervous2:

The little birdy on my shoulder thinks that the person you talked to know is probably the same person who is behind most all of this. I would even wager that this person has a personal vendetta against Todd and has been banned several times from this forum for having multiple accounts. I could be wrong, but I wonder what your inside source is considering that Todd doesn`t know what is going on. Smells like a set up out of jealousy too me.

If there was proof that Todd was a shill for any company he would be banned already. Instead some assumptions made by somebody else has lead to a witch chase through Todd`s threads. I guess they will determine if Todd has made too many posts using CMA products like Blackfire, which is sold by forum vendor Detailed Image. Perhaps, it is Todd`s constantt praising of M105 and M205 on autopia, which is guaranteed to help vendors that sell these products like ADS or Autogeek. How can somebody be a shill when they recommend products sold by forum vendors. Meguiars, P21s, Blackfire, Zaino, Danase Wet Glaze, Dodo Juice, Werkstatt, and Collonite. CMA doesn`t sell Collonite but their shill claims to be one the best waxes out there.

**imported_Detailing Technology** · 03-27-2009, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by gmblack3a

The little birdy on my shoulder thinks that the person you talked to know is probably the same person who is behind most all of this. I would even wager that this person has a personal vendetta against Todd and has been banned several times from this forum for having multiple accounts. I could be wrong, but I wonder what your inside source is considering that Todd doesn`t know what is going on. Smells like a set up out of jealousy too me.

If there was proof that Todd was a shill for any company he would be banned already. Instead some assumptions made by somebody else has lead to a witch chase through Todd`s threads. I guess they will determine if Todd has made too many posts using CMA products like Blackfire, which is sold by forum vendor Detailed Image. Perhaps, it is Todd`s constantt praising of M105 and M205 on autopia, which is guaranteed to help vendors that sell these products like ADS or Autogeek. How can somebody be a shill when they recommend products sold by forum vendors. Meguiars, P21s, Blackfire, Zaino, Danase Wet Glaze, Dodo Juice, Werkstatt, and Collonite. CMA doesn`t sell Collonite but their shill claims to be one the best waxes out there.

Good and valid. It`s tough being in the spotlight, every move you make is scrutinized.

But we dont know what he is being accused of yet. Being a schill really isnt that bad if the products work as "schilled"...

**termigator** · 03-27-2009, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by akimel

Bence, that particular article was also posted at the Corvette Forum. It is also temporarily saved in the Google cache.

Cool. Just what I needed. Thanks!

**imported_billzabub** · 03-27-2009, 06:29 AM

Wait... I thought the banning was the result of several non-constructive posts, from a variety of user accounts, all originating from the same IP (presumably his)?

If this was all about "shilling" then I think this is all waaaaaaaaaaaaay overblown. I think most of the resident pros here have earned the right to shill a bit here and there.

However, if someone was purposely causing discord, then DavidB had to act in a manner that he deemed best for the community.

Regardless, the situation is unfortunate. I have faith that David will handle the situation appropriately.