New M105 is kicking but w/ KB method

**Kevin Brown** · 03-20-2009, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by 02zx9r

Any update to the paper Kevin was writting about his method? Or has it already been posted and I missed it?

Thanks

Zoning in on it...

Worked on it until 3 a.m. this morning.

REALLY trying to wrap this thing and post by mid-week.

If I can get it all organized and proofed by a couple people, it will be posted Tuesday or Wednesday.

Sorry for the delays.

The saying `life happens` rings true!

It will not go up until it`s final proofed and critiqued.

**02zx9r** · 03-20-2009, 12:57 PM

No worries Mr Brown. Take your time and make sure it is perfect, I know a lot of people are anxiously awaiting it.

Thanks for all you are doing!!!!!

**imported_sal329** · 03-20-2009, 11:08 PM

Thanks everyone for the great advise on the thread and Kevin a big thanks to you for this awesome method. I spoke briefly with weekendwarrior about the method and can not wait for him to show me first hand.

**willtothewong** · 03-20-2009, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin Brown

Zoning in on it...

Worked on it until 3 a.m. this morning.

REALLY trying to wrap this thing and post by mid-week.

If I can get it all organized and proofed by a couple people, it will be posted Tuesday or Wednesday.

Sorry for the delays.

The saying `life happens` rings true!

It will not go up until it`s final proofed and critiqued.

yeah most definitely, take your time.

its better to be slow but perfect than fast and have a bunch of mistakes

**02zx9r** · 03-25-2009, 02:29 PM

Just want to make sure he did not publish his paper yet and I haven`t missed it?

Im sure it will be the talk of the site when he does so I dont think I missed it yet. :spot

**stiffdogg06** · 04-05-2009, 03:35 PM

Anything yet?

**pingable** · 04-05-2009, 04:17 PM

ha. As much as I have read the recent 105 KB threads, I still can`t WRAP my head around diminishing vs. non diminishing abrasives. Or you can`t teach a old new tricks when he`s found the right products and is just refining the techniques with the current products....

I guess to each it`s own, but I don`t think I am ready to step into the non diminishing arena.

Granted, for a PRO detailer where time is money, this is a HUGE factor . But for my, just your weekend warrior, I`ll stick with 3-4 steps and keep on refining the process....

**Accumulator** · 04-06-2009, 10:40 AM

chefwong- Heh heh, you sound *just* like me...especially when it comes to the M105! I resisted trying it for ages, but I gotta say that once I used it I too became a believer. Considering how fond I was/am of my previously-fave products, that`s saying something.

If you ever run into a situation where your current regimen just doesn`t cut it (either time/results or, well, whatever..) give the M105 a try. The different abrasives seem pretty easy to adapt oneself to.

**gmblack3** · 04-06-2009, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by chefwong

ha. As much as I have read the recent 105 KB threads, I still can`t WRAP my head around diminishing vs. non diminishing abrasives. Or you can`t teach a old new tricks when he`s found the right products and is just refining the techniques with the current products....

I guess to each it`s own, but I don`t think I am ready to step into the non diminishing arena.

Granted, for a PRO detailer where time is money, this is a HUGE factor . But for my, just your weekend warrior, I`ll stick with 3-4 steps and keep on refining the process....

Originally Posted by Accumulator

chefwong- Heh heh, you sound *just* like me...especially when it comes to the M105! I resisted trying it for ages, but I gotta say that once I used it I too became a believer. Considering how fond I was/am of my previously-fave products, that`s saying something.

If you ever run into a situation where your current regimen just doesn`t cut it (either time/results or, well, whatever..) give the M105 a try. The different abrasives seem pretty easy to adapt oneself to.

I agree with Accum on the non diminishing plus of polishes/compounds like M105/205. All you have to do is vary your pressure (increase for more cut.) I am "almost" more amazed by M205 and how it finishes out with a PC then the great cut of M105. I guess starting with M105 has a lot to do with this too.

**Labster** · 04-06-2009, 01:27 PM

So this new 105 that I`ve been hearing about, is this the PC friendly version? I got a 32 oz bottle in January and I`m not sure if it`s the new or the old.

**gmblack3** · 04-06-2009, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Labster

So this new 105 that I`ve been hearing about, is this the PC friendly version? I got a 32 oz bottle in January and I`m not sure if it`s the new or the old.

It should have 3 pictures on the back of the bottle if the new version.

By hand

By rotary

By RO

**RDAutosport** · 04-06-2009, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Labster

So this new 105 that I`ve been hearing about, is this the PC friendly version? I got a 32 oz bottle in January and I`m not sure if it`s the new or the old.

If it is the new version, it says DA compatible on the label. If not, it is the original version. I believe the M105 label is similar to the M205 label if the new version:

Regards,

Rich

**ricka** · 04-06-2009, 02:06 PM

for pc`s does it matter if you use a 4" or larger pad? other polishes work better with the smaller pad and a pc (because the pads turn faster to build heat to work down polish granules) vs 105/205 which don`t need heat since it doesn`t break down...

**PresdntialDtail** · 04-06-2009, 02:25 PM

subscribing.

**02zx9r** · 04-15-2009, 10:59 AM

Latest from Kevin from another thread dated 4-5-09

Hi all...

Regarding the paper (I just sent this via PM to a guy so I thought I`d steal my own stuff and post it up)...

I am diligently working on the pictures, diagrams, and graphics. Unfortunately, an hour or two after midnight is all the time I can usually muster. Any spare time I have I spend working on these additions (even if it is 20 minutes). It shouldn`t be much longer, though. Here`s the reason for the holdup:

Once I finish a graphic and place it in the already written paper, I must modify the text to lead into the graphic. Since I am having the paper proofread by two people or more (via e-mail), I wait to get their feedback on the graphic, make adjustments to the wording and then move on. Most often, another point of concern comes up, and I end up altering another section of the paper to better explain the topic in question.

Currently, the paper still has all the information about M106 and M86, but the portion relating to the random-orbital polisher has grown immensely and is being moved towards the beginning of the paper, as opposed to the end. Reality is such that if the user does not truly understand how the machine works and how to achieve best results using it regardless the liquid being used, the end result will likely be subpar.

So, while the wait is frustrating for those of you waiting to read it, there is a legitimate reason for the wait. I appreciate all the discussion and anticipation about this document. I know I am about a month behind the date I figured this baby would be posted, but it`s not too far off. I am REALLY looking forward to finishing this thing!

I knew I should have left the graphics out because of the time it takes to make them, but the paper has improved because of their inclusion.