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    I was thinking a Grit Guard, and some P21s?



    :work:



    Although I already have #26 at home and don`t know if P21s is really worth it.



    I don`t have Klasse Either.



    Sealent maybe?

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    P21S is a nice wax for Dark cars but it has a durability issue. What color is your car?

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    Its black.



    I am willing to wax and polish often and I love Menzerna FPII



    Klasse seems like a product for a person without time.



    However It does sound like a nice sealent that will last long, and I could use it as a base coat. Since I do not have waxes that last long (Gold Class, #26, NXT Mothers Carnuba Cleaner wax)



    How does Menzerna FPII look with Klasse on top? Then a Coat of #26.



    As I said I am not sure if P21s Is really worth it. I could live without Klasse.

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    I have used P21S before and I agree with Black Diamond that it doesn`t last that long. Very nice to apply and easy to remove.



    How about checking out Chemical Guys and browsing around there? I just recently started buying from then and I`m in love with their Pete`s `53. It`s still on special for $37 and it`s awesome!

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    I think that 50 dollar certificate is only valid on this website.



    I do have NXT and #26 which I can apply #26 every three weeks to keep up with the shine.



    Maybe I could spend on Mitts and such.

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    #26 should work fine for you. Maybe the accessories would be a better choice. Do you have Microfiber cloths? There is a good deal on an assortment at Autopia. I purchased these and they are nice towels.

    Der Wonder Towel Trio

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    good microfiber/drying towels are a must! here`s a good combo with 2 of each... Der Wunder Towel Trio

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    id get mf`s and Klasse AIO some clay blue mf applicators a waffle weave drying towel
    2001 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300R
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    If you really want a nice wax for dark colors I recommend Max Wax or Natty`s Blue. Both are great... although (at the moment) I`m loving the Max Wax a bit more.



    I just put some NB on a couple of days ago. It reminded me of why I love a good ol` nuba. I honestly don`t know why I ever just left the paint with only sealant on... there just is no matching a quality nuba.

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    I`d say your idea of the gritguard and the P21S are excellent uses for your good luck.

    The gritguard is always going to be useful and you`ll congratulate yourself on your wisdom every time you wash your car.



    My car is dark red and I`m always experimenting and yesterday I applied PoliSeal and did a front fender with World`s Best Wax. The cinnamon fragrance was nice but I found it tedious to remove. P21S on the rest of the car went on and off like a breeze and the look was extremely glossy and deep.

    With your black car, you won`t have any regrets with P21S either. You`ll use it all.

    -John C.

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    CG 5050 (10 char limit)

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    I`d suggest picking up some Megs #21 now that Autopia carries it. Great looking sealant that`s a lot easier to use than Klasse - looks awesome on black topped with 26. Throw in a grit guard and you still have $20 to play with - maybe some towels and/or autoglym glass polish?

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    I don`t think some people realize that he won the weekly $50 Autopia contest so he`s only able to order from the autopia car care store.



    If it were me, I`d spring for more mf towels. Their towels are really nice.

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    Save it and put it towards the Ultimate Detailing Machine

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    Quote Originally Posted by firegate
    I`d suggest picking up some Megs #21 now that Autopia carries it. Great looking sealant that`s a lot easier to use than Klasse - looks awesome on black topped with 26. Throw in a grit guard and you still have $20 to play with - maybe some towels and/or autoglym glass polish?




    Approx How long does #21 last?



    If its that good of a product I might wait for Autopia to get it back in stock.



    I have decided that I will not buy p21s since I have #26. I am seriously considering klasse.

 

 
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