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    I have noticed that both M21 and NXT when just applied doesn`t look like it offers much protection, but wait a day when it cures and then I can see an thick polymer coating covering the paint, this is especially noticable when you have a paint chip under to differentiate the contrast, you can really see how thick the sealant is as a sacarficial barrier. I`am convince that both M21 and NXT is a durable as Zaino or AIO and that beading is not a good indicator on polymer sealants.

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    I have noticed that NXT definitely looks like it is `there`. I`ve never had any durability complaints with NXT.
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    the new NXT is supposedly more durable than the original formulation

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    my nxt is done beading in a month and looks like crap, zaino goes for ~6-9 months and still beads strong and looks good. and that is with no coats added after original application. I love the look of nxt don`t get me wrong, but I don`t like having to add coats all the time just to "maintain" and get no additional benefit

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadboosttroy
    my nxt is done beading in a month and looks like crap, zaino goes for ~6-9 months and still beads strong and looks good. and that is with no coats added after original application. I love the look of nxt don`t get me wrong, but I don`t like having to add coats all the time just to "maintain" and get no additional benefit
    Which Zaino product lasts 6-9 months?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadboosttroy
    my nxt is done beading in a month and looks like crap, zaino goes for ~6-9 months and still beads strong and looks good. and that is with no coats added after original application. I love the look of nxt don`t get me wrong, but I don`t like having to add coats all the time just to "maintain" and get no additional benefit




    Beading is not a good indication that there is no protection or barrier, most polymer sealants today don`t even bead at all, but if water sheets then there is still a barrier at play. Depending on the molecular structure of the polymer, some will not bead and some do. I have noticed that the barrier from both NXT and M21 to be on for more than 6 months through winter and spring even if it doesn`t bead like a carnuaba that has an oil based emulsion.

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    I`ve read that some resin based products are soft and don`t bead water well and that some manufacturers add ingredients to increase beading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadboosttroy
    my nxt is done beading in a month and looks like crap, zaino goes for ~6-9 months and still beads strong and looks good. and that is with no coats added after original application. I love the look of nxt don`t get me wrong, but I don`t like having to add coats all the time just to "maintain" and get no additional benefit


    Single layer of the paste gives me 3-4 months of great appearance, decent slickness and beading in the rain and sheeting when washing conventionally.



    Don`t know why some people don`t seem to get good durability from it. :nixweiss
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solo Cali
    Which Zaino product lasts 6-9 months?


    z2pro, also original z2 for me. maintained with z6 only on occasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadboosttroy
    maintained with z6 only on occasion.


    I could get origional turtle wax to last for 6-9 months if I maintained it with z6 when it started to fade...



    You`re comparing maintained zaino to unmaintained NXT. That`s fair.





    Add me to the group who sees the thickness of NXT, and gets great durability. Especially the paste. It`s awesome.



    In this pic, you can really `see` the polymer, it`s like the shine is popping from *above* the paint...




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    Quote Originally Posted by hadboosttroy
    my nxt is done beading in a month and looks like crap, zaino goes for ~6-9 months and still beads strong and looks good. and that is with no coats added after original application. I love the look of nxt don`t get me wrong, but I don`t like having to add coats all the time just to "maintain" and get no additional benefit


    When you say "no coats added" do you mean no Z6, no Z8 and no Z7 washes? Those all contain additional Zaino polish and do replenish the finish.



    Don`t get me wrong, I use Zaino and and think it is an awesome product but without using those products as a "system" I have never gotten the 6-8 months most claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjstaaf
    When you say "no coats added" do you mean no Z6, no Z8 and no Z7 washes? Those all contain additional Zaino polish and do replenish the finish.



    Don`t get me wrong, I use Zaino and and think it is an awesome product but without using those products as a "system" I have never gotten the 6-8 months most claim.




    maybe your environment is different from mine? No coats added means no coats added, it`s simple. Z6 contains no sealant. Oh and forgot to mention, I do/did use the nxt spray booster stuff. Looked great, but that`s it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackntan
    I could get origional turtle wax to last for 6-9 months if I maintained it with z6 when it started to fade...



    You`re comparing maintained zaino to unmaintained NXT. That`s fair.





    Add me to the group who sees the thickness of NXT, and gets great durability. Especially the paste. It`s awesome.



    In this pic, you can really `see` the polymer, it`s like the shine is popping from *above* the paint...







    see my above post. also, i don`t think you can "see" the polymer, that`s just in your mind and your own perception.... it`s open to interpretation

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadboosttroy
    maybe your environment is different from mine? No coats added means no coats added, it`s simple. Z6 contains no sealant. Oh and forgot to mention, I do/did use the nxt spray booster stuff. Looked great, but that`s it.


    Straight from www.zaintostore.com ...



    Quickly details your car and renews gloss!



    Restores Show Car Polish protection and intensifies freshly polished paint.



    Excellent on wheels... shines and protects!



    Z-6â„¢ Ultra Clean is the first detailing spray designed to be a quick detailer and a polish enhancement in one. Z-6â„¢ Ultra Clean detailing spray is a very important component of the Zaino Show Car Polish system. Formulated with the same polymer-based gloss enhancers, Z-6â„¢ Ultra Clean dramatically boosts and intensifies all Zaino Show Car Polish finishes.



    Z-6â„¢ Ultra Clean contains seven optical clarifiers and our unique wet gloss enhancers to increase your car`s wet-looking, mile-deep Show Car Polish shine. We highly recommend it for fast, safe removal of water spots, finger prints and light soil from painted surfaces, without scratching.



    Z-6â„¢ Ultra Clean forms a tough molecular bond to all Zaino Show Car Polishes to increase gloss, optical clarity, slickness, and protection from the sun and elements.



    Z-6â„¢ Ultra Clean "Gloss Enhancer" spray is awesome. In addition to helping give your car a three dimensional, its antistatic formula will reduce dust and dirt pickup by 60%.



    Please note: Using the product in its original concentration will provide the best r


    It is not just a quick detailer, it is a booster :buffing:

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjstaaf
    Straight from www.zaintostore.com ...







    It is not just a quick detailer, it is a booster :buffing:


    i see gloss enhancer, nothing about adding sealant. z8 is another story

 

 
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