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    Looking to Try New Products

    Hello everyone. I`m a long time Zaino user looking to step out and try some new product, and perhaps cutting down on the time it takes in my clay-to-LSP regiment. Again, I`m looking for something that gives me the glassy pop that Zaino does, but eliminates the need to mix chemicals together to make the product work (ala mixing ZFX + Z5, etc.)

    Currently my routine is as follows:

    - Shampoo (Zaino Z7)
    - Clay (whatever is on the local shelves, to me its all the same)
    - Shampoo again
    - Polish with Poor Boy`s 2.5 (LC orange pad)
    - Polish with Menzerna Final Polish (Blue or White pad)
    - Shampoo again
    - Use Zaino Z5 (mixed with ZFX so multiple coats can be applied in one day)
    - Wipe down with detailing spray Zaino Z-6
    - Repeat use of Zaino and wipe down with Z-6 at least 3 times (over the course of 24 hours)
    - Top with Zaino Grand Finale Spray Seal

    To replace the use of Zaino Z5 + Z6 wipe down, I`m considering going with Blackfire Wet Diamond + BF Polymer seal. I have never top or used a wax at all and have no desire to add this to my routine.

    Does anyone know if this BF would be a good replacement for Z5 and Z6? I know making a comparison if you`ve never used both products is a hard thing to do. Perhaps someone who has used both products might see this and comment. Even if you have not used both, your feedback is welcome and solicited. I`m open to any and all suggestions.

    Many thanks.

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    re: Looking to Try New Products

    Blackfire will do all that and more!

    Welcome to the forum Harrybackanass



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    re: Looking to Try New Products

    Welcome to AF !!!! I was a long time Zaino user as well. It was a great product line however after trying out Blackfire I have never looked back
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    re: Looking to Try New Products

    Quote Originally Posted by Pats300zx View Post
    Welcome to AF !!!! I was a long time Zaino user as well. It was a great product line however after trying out Blackfire I have never looked back
    I second this one. I used to thinkg Zaino was the best thing out there but I had no idea what else was out there.

    I still have my zaino setup. I use ZAIO every now and then for a quick clean/protection by hand but have not used any of the other stuff I have from zaino in almost two years.

    You will like the Blackfire line. The Spray Sealant is awesome and works great as a drying aid as well. This spray reminds me of Z8 but easier to apply without streaking.


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    If you really want a time saver, pm me your addy and I`ll send you a couple ounces of Blackfire Crystal Seal to try
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    The second time I done it on my own.

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    Re: Looking to Try New Products

    If you have the skill to use Zaino, I would jump to a coating. it will last longer and since I know from experience, that Zaino will not hide any imperfections, I assume you are skilled at polishing out the paint.

    EXO v2 and CquartZ and Black Label are all fine choices. My experience is with the EXO and I love it.

    Backfire Wet Diamonds is another great choice, as it is a top tier conventional sealant but for me I am into the longer durability of coatings.

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    Re: Looking to Try New Products

    Thanks to everyone for their thoughts. Sorry, it took so long to respond. I`ve been in a location where wifi is limited. I have become fairly adept at paint correction, but am no means an expert. I just try and keep my paint as defect free as possible so that ultimately, when I do polish, which is at least once a year, there is little correction to be made.

    Nutbread, I will PM you in a bit. The seal sounds intriguing as well as the coating that JSFM35X mentions. As I said I`m open for any and all suggestions. I have two black cars, a BMW 335i and a big honkin` Yukon Denali. Keeping them straight, clean, and defect free is a terrible habit. But it keeps me out of the casinos.

    Thanks again, everyone.

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    Re: Looking to Try New Products

    BLACKFIRE Crystal Seal or Wolfgang Deep Gloss Liquid Seal will give you the look and durability you expect in a fraction of the time you are accustomed to. You can use the Polymer Spray to maintain the sealant.

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    Re: Looking to Try New Products

    Blackfire and their different products will give you a fantastic look as will other products on the market. My one warning to you is that Zaino has a look completely unique to their products. While other products will produce fantastic finishes they just won`t duplicate what you get with Z2 or Z5. They will be much easier to use though. I have a black Bentley GT scheduled this coming week and I ordered Z5 for the occasion. I haven`t used Zaino in probably 3 years but I am stoked at the thought of it layered on this scheduled full correction. Something about that reflective plastic look I have missed. Plus I am bored with what is in my cabinet.

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    Re: Looking to Try New Products

    You might want to consider Menzerna Powerlock--very easy to apply, easy to wipe off, looks fantastic and you should be able to get at least 6 months of protection.

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    Re: Looking to Try New Products

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybackanass View Post
    Hello everyone. I`m a long time Zaino user looking to step out and try some new product, and perhaps cutting down on the time it takes in my clay-to-LSP regiment. Again, I`m looking for something that gives me the glassy pop that Zaino does, but eliminates the need to mix chemicals together to make the product work (ala mixing ZFX + Z5, etc.)

    Currently my routine is as follows:

    - Shampoo (Zaino Z7)
    - Clay (whatever is on the local shelves, to me its all the same)
    - Shampoo again
    - Polish with Poor Boy`s 2.5 (LC orange pad)
    - Polish with Menzerna Final Polish (Blue or White pad)
    - Shampoo again
    - Use Zaino Z5 (mixed with ZFX so multiple coats can be applied in one day)
    - Wipe down with detailing spray Zaino Z-6
    - Repeat use of Zaino and wipe down with Z-6 at least 3 times (over the course of 24 hours)
    - Top with Zaino Grand Finale Spray Seal

    To replace the use of Zaino Z5 + Z6 wipe down, I`m considering going with Blackfire Wet Diamond + BF Polymer seal. I have never top or used a wax at all and have no desire to add this to my routine.

    Does anyone know if this BF would be a good replacement for Z5 and Z6? I know making a comparison if you`ve never used both products is a hard thing to do. Perhaps someone who has used both products might see this and comment. Even if you have not used both, your feedback is welcome and solicited. I`m open to any and all suggestions.

    Many thanks.
    I used Zaino, exclusively, for 3 years. Once I used Wet Diamond, I never went back.

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    Re: Looking to Try New Products

    Blackfire is the way to go!
    AutopiaForums is the place to be.
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    Re: Looking to Try New Products

    Quote Originally Posted by fergnation View Post
    Blackfire and their different products will give you a fantastic look as will other products on the market. My one warning to you is that Zaino has a look completely unique to their products. While other products will produce fantastic finishes they just won`t duplicate what you get with Z2 or Z5. They will be much easier to use though. I have a black Bentley GT scheduled this coming week and I ordered Z5 for the occasion. I haven`t used Zaino in probably 3 years but I am stoked at the thought of it layered on this scheduled full correction. Something about that reflective plastic look I have missed. Plus I am bored with what is in my cabinet.
    just look at a package of saran wrap
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    Re: Looking to Try New Products

    Why would you change such an AWESOME user name?!?!?

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    Re: Looking to Try New Products

    I also switched from Zaino to Blackfire products and haven`t looked back

 

 
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