Bfwd

**Swanicyouth** · 03-04-2014, 10:42 AM

Is BFWD layerable, or is layering it a waiste of time?

Todd?

**Merlin** · 03-04-2014, 01:43 PM

I always do at least two coats of BFWD with a 12-24 hour cure time in between.

**Swanicyouth** · 03-04-2014, 01:50 PM

Alright you guys are slipping. You should have told me to use the search function.

Okay, here goes: 
 
BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection 
Dry Time: 3-30 minutes 
Cure Time: 2-12 hours 
 Recommendations: Wait 8-12 hours for additional layers, particularly in cool or damp climates. 
In Use: Wet Diamond AFPP dries and cures extremely fast for a liquid sealant. In moderate climates it should be fully cured with in a couple of hours and many users report topping or layering shortly after removing the first coat with no performance ramifications. 
 
BLACKFIRE Crystal Seal 
Dry Time: 1-15 minutes 
Cure Time: 15 minutes-4 hours 
Recommendations: Wait 4-5 hours for additional layers, particularly in cool or damp climates. 
In Use: Crystal Seal begins cross linking on contact and in most cases is fully cured with in 1 hour unless you live in an extremely cool or wet climate. 
 
BLACKFIRE Total Polish & Seal 
Dry Time: N/A, work into the paint until nearly clear and remove immediately. 
Cure Time: 15 minutes-2 hours 
Recommendations: Wait 2 hours for additional topping, particularly in cool or damp climates. 
In Use: If applying Total Polish & Seal by machine, the machine agitation of the product (or vigorous hand application) greatly accelerates the cure time. You can remove Total Polish & Seal with Wet Diamond Polymer Spray to increase protection instantly. 
 
 
BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond Polymer Spray 
Dry Time: Not Applicable 
Cure Time: 5-15 minutes after buff off. 
Recommendations: Wait 15 to 30 minutes for the product to full cure for maximum benefit. 
In Use: By a function of its design, Polymer Spray can be topped or layered almost immediately. You can also use it to remove Total Polish & Seal and take advantage of the additional polymer content. 
 
BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Wax 
Dry Time: Not Applicable, remove wet 
Cure Time: The polymers cure extremely fast, the wax may take 1-8 hours to fully harden depending on temperature and climate. 
Recommendations: For maximum layering benefit wait 6-8 hours before topping with more wax. 
In Use: The polymers and wax both cure/harden extremely fast, a second coat of wax can be applied almost immediately after the first has been removed with very little change in performance. 
 
 
A couple of quick notes: 
 
Dry Time: Not applicable to all products, this is the expected time range from when the product has been applied until it hazes on the surface and can be removed with minimal effort. Wet Diamond Polymers are hyper reactive and begin to adhere and cross-link almost immediately after contact. Applying the liquid products too thick, high humidity, or cool temperatures can effect dry time. 
 
Cure Time: The estimated time from application until the product is fully cross-linked. Wet Diamond Polymers are hyper reactive. The product begins to cross-link almost immediately and the overwhelming majority of cross-linking occurs very shortly after application. The remaining time is to get maximum benefit. Applying the liquid products too thick, high humidity, or cool temperatures can effect cure time. 
 
Wait as long as you can- One of the advantages of Wet Diamond Polymer products is that the polymers begin to cross-link on contact. The overwhelming majority of curing takes place very quickly, the rest of the cure time is waiting for the last couple of percent. It is why we don`t print official recommendations for many of the products. Such a huge portion of the curing is so fast that if you cannot wait you will likely never notice the difference and sometimes it is not feasible to wait in order to gain several more percent of benefit. 
 
BLACKFIRE product are known for being easy to use and producing consistent results. If you notice any streaking, hazing, or shadowing of product when layering the revert back to the recommended cure times.

**Todd@RUPES** · 03-04-2014, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Swanicyouth

Is BFWD layerable, or is layering it a waiste of time?

Todd?

2 coats for complete, even, and thick coverage. Past 2, it is really a toss up.

**Merlin** · 03-04-2014, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Todd Helme

2 coats for complete, even, and thick coverage. Past 2, it is really a toss up.

Past two is where Midnight Sun comes in.

Top coat with BFMS. "Wet Ice Over Fire!"

**Swanicyouth** · 03-04-2014, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Merlin

Past two is where Midnight Sun comes in.

Top coat with BFMS. "Wet Ice Over Fire!"

Yep. I got that too.

**Todd@RUPES** · 03-06-2014, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Swanicyouth

Yep. I got that too.

Create WHIPLASH!!

**Swanicyouth** · 03-07-2014, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by Todd Helme

Create WHIPLASH!!

Working on it. The MS is going on today. The BFWD was "curing" for a few days in the garage.

**Swanicyouth** · 03-07-2014, 09:42 PM

Done.

**Paul Mitchell** · 03-07-2014, 10:31 PM

Great job! Nice reflections in that paint. Did you use the spray wax over the midnight sun?

**RSTARK** · 03-08-2014, 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by Swanicyouth

Done.

That looks awesome! I`d really like to see the same picture before MS was applied to see any difference. I know pictures don`t do justice, but would be nice to see the same angle shot before and after.

**Swanicyouth** · 03-08-2014, 07:08 AM

I don`t know if even I can tell the difference in person. It looks good - I`m happy. I`ll post some better sun pics hopefully today, when the sun comes out.

That pic was when I just happened to be walking through my garage to go pick up quesadillas at Wawa.

**Merlin** · 03-08-2014, 08:50 AM

IMHO The "Wet Ice Over Fire" is a very unique wetness over energy "look" that always gets folks to stop and ask me..."What kind of wax do you put on your car?".

I guess that`s why the motto: Don`t just turn heads, create whiplash!

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Merlin