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    Q: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Instant Detailer?

    I understand that this is a BFMS wax QD spray.

    What is the advantage of using MSID over BFWD Polymer spray?

    Does it create the "Ice over Fire" look using this QD spray?

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    Re: Q: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Instant Detailer?

    Haven`t used them yet but I would guess cleaning ability (MSID) vs. durability (WDPS).

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    Re: Q: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Instant Detailer?

    Giving this a bump. I have both on the way, but I would also like to hear from those that have been playing with it already.

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    Re: Q: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Instant Detailer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin View Post
    I understand that this is a BFMS wax QD spray.

    What is the advantage of using MSID over BFWD Polymer spray?

    Does it create the "Ice over Fire" look using this QD spray?
    Thanks for giving this a bump, I totally missed the question!

    Midnight Sun Instant Detailer is a primarily a quick detailer with the benefits of having both ivory carnauba wax and Wet Diamond polymers in it. It is excellent at cleaning light soiling, smudges, finger prints, and bird droppings with ease. It can be used on moderately wet surfaces as a drying aid. It also imparts a considerable amount of wax/polymers on the surface which gives the paint added protection and a deeper, Midnight Sun carnauba glow.

    Wet Diamond Polymer Spray is primarily a spray sealant with the benefits of being a light duty quick detail spray. Smudges and finger prints are no problem. It can be used as a drying aid as well, but only on barely wet surfaces. It has a high count of Wet Diamond polymers, so the look and slickness it leaves is very familiar. It adds more protection to the paint then Midnight Sun Carnauba with a brighter (yet still deep) Wet Diamond shine.

    You can use either product over any BLACKFIRE LSP, although Midnight Sun Instant Detailer really works well over Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste (and any wax for that matter!). You can also use Midnight Sun Instant Detailer over a sealant to create that "Wet Ice over Fire" signature shine.

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    Re: Q: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Instant Detailer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Helme View Post
    Midnight Sun Instant Detailer is a primarily a quick detailer with the benefits of having both ivory carnauba wax and Wet Diamond polymers in it.
    Nice. I did not realize it had carnauba wax in it. I am looking forward to giving my bottle a try here soon when the weather warms up a bit and I can give the truck a good wash.

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    Re: Q: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Instant Detailer?

    Thanks Todd for the reply.

    Let me see if I got this straight...
    This is what I gathered from your post.
    It is probably WAY over simplified.

    SHORT VERSION:

    Midnight Sun Instant Detailer
    BFMS QD with wax

    Wet Diamond Polymer Spray
    BFWD spray on sealant



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    Re: Q: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Instant Detailer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mister B View Post
    Nice. I did not realize it had carnauba wax in it.

    There a a few QD spray products that have wax in them.
    Zaino Z-8 Grand Finale Spray Seal is one that I know of.

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    Re: Q: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Instant Detailer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin View Post
    Thanks Todd for the reply.

    Let me see if I got this straight...
    This is what I gathered from your post.
    It is probably WAY over simplified.

    SHORT VERSION:

    Midnight Sun Instant Detailer
    BFMS QD with wax

    Wet Diamond Polymer Spray
    BFWD spray on sealant with QD


    I changed it slightly (in red)

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    Re: Q: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Instant Detailer?

    No wax in Z8. Sal would never put "wax" in his products!

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    Re: Q: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Instant Detailer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wax2aMax View Post
    No wax in Z8. Sal would never put "wax" in his products!
    Actually it`s true.
    Z-8 is a "Showtime"/"Sunday Best" type of Quick Detailer.
    I spoke with Sal and he stated to me that Z-8 has wax in it.
    It`s probably not an "all" wax QD...but it does contains some wax.
    I doubt Z-8 offers much protection or longevity...but it looks great!
    I think of Z-8 as "The icing on the cake" type of QD spray

    On the other hand, I don`t believe, Z-6 has any wax in it at all.

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    Re: Q: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Instant Detailer?

    Used Z8 (and the Zaino system) many times. Z8 is like BFPS...icing on the cake, not really a QD. Sal is so down on carnauba, that this surprises me....wonder what "wax" means?

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    Re: Q: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Instant Detailer?

    The other thing is that you can add more layers of the Z2/Z5 sealants after using Z8, so maybe the"wax" amount is very small.

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    Re: Q: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Instant Detailer?

    I love both products. The polymer spray is really easy to use.
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    Re: Q: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Instant Detailer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wax2aMax View Post
    Used Z8 (and the Zaino system) many times. Z8 is like BFPS...icing on the cake, not really a QD. Sal is so down on carnauba, that this surprises me....wonder what "wax" means?
    I wonder if Aqua Wax has wax in it?

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    Re: Q: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Instant Detailer?

    Quote Originally Posted by 01GreyStangGT View Post
    I love both products. The polymer spray is really easy to use.
    I agree. Wet Diamond Polymer Spray was designed to be extremely easy to use and it is fairly durable when used as a stand alone.

 

 
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