BFMS NOW $80.00?? Booooooooo

**Dr Oldz** · 12-28-2011, 05:51 PM

Blackfire Midnight Sun Batch #25 Carnauba Paste

Hope this is just a misprint otherwise sales may fall steeply.

**Rocket** · 12-28-2011, 06:07 PM

Kind of a neat case though. Think about it- once you finish the wax you can pack cloths in it for your next trip

**Crodad1** · 12-28-2011, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Rocket

Kind of a neat case though. Think about it- once you finish the wax you can pack cloths in it for your next trip

I can ship my clothes for less then $20.00 LOL

**BobbyG** · 12-28-2011, 06:43 PM

I wonder what`s behind the BIG increase here? I bought my BlackFire Midnight Sun last year on sale for $49.00 but the regular price was only $59.00.

I`m interested to see what everyone else makes of this..

**Crodad1** · 12-28-2011, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by BobbyG

I wonder what`s behind the BIG increase here? I bought my BlackFire Midnight Sun last year on sale for $49.00 but the regular price was only $59.00.

I`m interested to see what everyone else makes of this..

Marketing!
You, the Detailers made the product to what it is. Demands were good, product was good, but to raise prices this time of the yr where everyone`s business is slow is a suicide in my opinion.This time of the year everyone is having sales on their product.Raising prices now it`s like raising prices on air conditioners this time of the yr.
This is just my observation and opinion.

**Rocket** · 12-28-2011, 07:22 PM

A lot of companies increase prices at the beginning of their physical year. Some companies track a year from different months than January. That`s business. At my dads job their year starts over in October. If the price went up in April or May people would still cry foul.

Just wait for Todd to reply and you`ll have your answer soon enough

**Todd@RUPES** · 12-28-2011, 08:40 PM

BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste will continue to be a hand poured, premium carnauba wax that is blended from the finest ingredients, including a helping of BLACKFIRE`s Wet Diamond polymers. The formula has been improved further (technically the latest pour could be considered Batch 26) and the sizing has been increased by almost half an ounce. In today`s world this is quite rare, we have all heard the saying and and have likely had to say it ourselves, “They dont` build them like they used to.” To combat rising manufactuing and chemical costs many manufactuers restort to using lower quality ingredients, decreasing size, or using lower quality ingredients to maintain or increase margins.

If you apply Midnight Sun thick you should be able to get at least 25 applications per the previous 7 ounce size. In identical kit form, which included one microfiber towel and foam applicator, Midnight Sun sold for $69.95, which comes to $2.80 per premium wax applicaton. With the increase in size (assuming two more thick applicatons) the improved formula cost only $2.96 per premium wax applicaton. A nominal increase for an improved formulation that includes a higher quality microfiber towel as well.

**Flannigan** · 12-28-2011, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Todd Helme

BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste will continue to be a hand poured, premium carnauba wax that is blended from the finest ingredients, including a helping of BLACKFIRE`s Wet Diamond polymers. The formula has been improved further (technically the latest pour could be considered Batch 26) and the sizing has been increased by almost half an ounce. In today`s world this is quite rare, we have all heard the saying and and have likely had to say it ourselves, “They dont` build them like they used to.” To combat rising manufactuing and chemical costs many manufactuers restort to using lower quality ingredients, decreasing size, or using lower quality ingredients to maintain or increase margins.

If you apply Midnight Sun thick you should be able to get at least 25 applications per the previous 7 ounce size. In identical kit form, which included one microfiber towel and foam applicator, Midnight Sun sold for $69.95, which comes to $2.80 per premium wax applicaton. With the increase in size (assuming two more thick applicatons) the improved formula cost only $2.96 per premium wax applicaton. A nominal increase for an improved formulation that includes a higher quality microfiber towel as well.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

**C. Charles Hahn** · 12-28-2011, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by Crodad1

Marketing!

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**Dr Oldz** · 12-28-2011, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by Todd Helme

BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste will continue to be a hand poured, premium carnauba wax that is blended from the finest ingredients, including a helping of BLACKFIRE`s Wet Diamond polymers. The formula has been improved further (technically the latest pour could be considered Batch 26) and the sizing has been increased by almost half an ounce. In today`s world this is quite rare, we have all heard the saying and and have likely had to say it ourselves, “They dont` build them like they used to.” To combat rising manufactuing and chemical costs many manufactuers restort to using lower quality ingredients, decreasing size, or using lower quality ingredients to maintain or increase margins.

If you apply Midnight Sun thick you should be able to get at least 25 applications per the previous 7 ounce size. In identical kit form, which included one microfiber towel and foam applicator, Midnight Sun sold for $69.95, which comes to $2.80 per premium wax applicaton. With the increase in size (assuming two more thick applicatons) the improved formula cost only $2.96 per premium wax applicaton. A nominal increase for an improved formulation that includes a higher quality microfiber towel as well.

Understandable. BF MS was just selling at ACC for 60$. I know a while ago it was $70 with an applicator on other sites. People got used to it being 60 and now it`s 80. A big jump...I think 70 would have been better taken since you said it comes with an applicator and a MF towel. Just expressing my opinion so please accept that for what it is. I love BFMS and it is one of the first BF products that I have used. I am on my second pot actually. Just in these not so great economic times, I feel it is a bit much of a jump.

PS thanks for responding to this thread, Todd!

**CEE DOG** · 12-29-2011, 08:23 AM

Thanks for the response Todd!

Doc, this is what happens when we give a product good reviews and help sell it. We have to pay more

or go without. I am glad I bought mine on the closeout sale. I won`t pay 80$ for a wax.

**blk5.0** · 12-29-2011, 08:43 AM

It`s 60 on another site so buy now lol

**CEE DOG** · 12-29-2011, 08:51 AM

Rofl!

**BIOLINK** · 12-29-2011, 09:44 AM

Hmmmm, I wonder how much the new release of Wet Diamond Sealant will be. I would love to get another tub of BFMS but I`m with some of you, will not pay $80 for wax.

**viOlaziOne** · 12-29-2011, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by TID10

will not pay $80 for wax.

this.

I`m confused though .. the link provided in the first post leads me to a 7oz wax with a case for 20 dollars more than other sites selling the SAME 7oz wax for the price we were all comfortable with (without the case) .. there should, IMO, be an option of whether or not we want this case or at least a bump in size unless I`m missing something .. Todd, you mentioned an increase in size for two more thick applicators but still 7oz ?? unless the new site wrote the wrong oz, I`m not down with that at all TBH