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    Black Fire Crystal Coat

    I have used BFCC on my Trans Am and other than being crazy difficult to work with am really liking the results.
    my question is this- what can I use to get the paint to feel slick like a freshly polished surface? The paint feels grabby-and not smooth since coating. Applied in September , with only maintenance washes since.
    Any ideas will be appreciated.
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    Re: Black Fire Crystal Coat

    When was the last time you clayed the surface?

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    Re: Black Fire Crystal Coat

    As with Angus, claying and I did a round of Spotless on mine to try it out. A bit of slickness was back, but not by much.
    I like it a lot actually despite the very hard application. Looks really good and has performed better than most coatings I`ve tried.
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    Re: Black Fire Crystal Coat

    It could be that it is contaminated as previously stated and may require a decon wash rather than claying. Surprised you used it as it`s a pain to use it. I tossed the bottle I had after having difficulties.

    Some coatings are more grabby than others. You could give it a coat of blackfire crystal seal a try.
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    Re: Black Fire Crystal Coat

    Quote Originally Posted by Angus View Post
    When was the last time you clayed the surface?
    The grabby nature has occurred from the time of application. And hasn`t changed at all since September.
    It truly doesn`t feel like surface contamination, it`s just not slick like a corrected/ polished paint normally does.
    Im hoping to get that back.
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    Re: Black Fire Crystal Coat

    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    It could be that it is contaminated as previously stated and may require a decon wash rather than claying. Surprised you used it as it`s a pain to use it. I tossed the bottle I had after having difficulties.

    Some coatings are more grabby than others. You could give it a coat of blackfire crystal seal a try.
    I was shocked at how difficult it was to work with, I must have watched every video on the web trying to figure out where I was going wrong.
    This grabby surface has been since the application, no worse today as it was then.
    But , I will add this.... It works exactly as advertised. It looks amazing and it is super easy to clean.
    I should try the Crystal Seal , I read that using spray wax or wax effects the coating so I haven`t tried anything out of fear of ruining my hard work applying the coating.
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    Re: Black Fire Crystal Coat

    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    Surprised you used it as it`s a pain to use it. I tossed the bottle I had after having difficulties.

    Some coatings are more grabby than others. You could give it a coat of blackfire crystal seal a try.
    I tossed four of them!

    I kept finding high spots on my truck last year that I had to polish off, looked candy coated but man that stuff is defective IMO (or just too hard to use for this hack)


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    Re: Black Fire Crystal Coat

    I received a bottle in one of the Autopia mystery boxes. I think I`ll use my time applying WG Ceramic instead, after reading all the horror stories on BFCC.

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    Re: Black Fire Crystal Coat

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedFreak View Post
    The grabby nature has occurred from the time of application. And hasn`t changed at all since September.
    It truly doesn`t feel like surface contamination, it`s just not slick like a corrected/ polished paint normally does.
    Im hoping to get that back.
    IME the bottles I had flashed IMMEDIATELY and I could not coat a larger than 1x1 surface before it was nearly impossible to buff off

    FWIW, the high spots that were left, were grabby, maybe that`s just the coating?


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    Re: Black Fire Crystal Coat

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedFreak View Post
    The grabby nature has occurred from the time of application. And hasn`t changed at all since September.
    It truly doesn`t feel like surface contamination, it`s just not slick like a corrected/ polished paint normally does.
    Im hoping to get that back.
    Interesting. In addition to being grabby, would you say it feels gummy/sticky now or immediately following application? Reason I ask is because I seem to remember others reporting BF Crystal Coat flashes too quickly and dries in a sticky mess before it can be buffed. I wonder if that could be what you`re dealing?
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    Re: Black Fire Crystal Coat

    Quote Originally Posted by Angus View Post
    Interesting. In addition to being grabby, would you say it feels gummy/sticky now or immediately following application? Reason I ask is because I seem to remember others reporting BF Crystal Coat flashes too quickly and dries in a sticky mess before it can be buffed. I wonder if that could be what you`re dealing?
    ding ding!

    everybody said I was crazy when I was talking about this. All I know is this is the most difficult coating I`ve ever used and I can apply CSL black in my sleep now


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    Re: Black Fire Crystal Coat

    Quote Originally Posted by RatZ1LLa View Post
    I received a bottle in one of the Autopia mystery boxes. I think I`ll use my time applying WG Ceramic instead, after reading all the horror stories on BFCC.
    WG Ceramic is super easy to apply. You`ll do great.

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    Re: Black Fire Crystal Coat

    Quote Originally Posted by 512detail View Post
    ding ding!

    everybody said I was crazy when I was talking about this. All I know is this is the most difficult coating I`ve ever used and I can apply CSL black in my sleep now
    Ha! Yeah it must have been you Brandt!! But I know I saw similar threads over on AGO now that I`m thinking about it.
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    Re: Black Fire Crystal Coat

    Quote Originally Posted by Angus View Post
    Interesting. In addition to being grabby, would you say it feels gummy/sticky now or immediately following application?
    It is grabby now, but it was gummy and super sticky during the application . I could not even push the mf towel across the panel, I literally had to pull it. Someone else was liking it to "gorilla glue on the paint" and that sounds spot on.
    My first coating attempt was a terrible experience, but the results are impressive aside from the grabby surface lacking slickness.

    (If you have ever tossed a towel across the hood after polishing -it glides , that is not happening after coating it. From the beginning.
    It just stops wherever you put it, if that makes sense.)
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    Re: Black Fire Crystal Coat

    It sounds like your experience is inline with Brandt`s and others. Sorry. Maybe try applying a paste wax or sealant and see if that helps?
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