Thoughts: Zymol Video

[David Fermani]

Check this out and let me know your thoughts:


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http://youtu.be/R4wjfrBWrJ8

[Jean-Claude]

I think it`s all pomp.


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The listing of natural oils used is helpful how? Is he sharing his favorite recipe for a fruity tasting dish?


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Quadaxial woven?`Now, I can rest easy. Knowing my towel is quadaxial woven gives me real peace of mind.


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He talks about bringing the paint to the surface we are about to see. There is a build up to how great the paint will look and then doesn`t show it at all. -what was shown for 10 seconds does not count as showing off the paint.


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Of course his products are marketed towards car owners and not professionals. They are designed for ease of use, not permanent repair. With that said, it`s a dog and pony show.

[Accumulator]

I`m certain that what he did would indeed make that old-school ss black lacquer look a lot better (at least for a while).` IMO there`s nothing at all wrong with that kind of approach on an older car with paint that needs to be preserved in the most gentle way possible.` That said....


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I`m no Zymol-hater, but yeah, just another dog-and-pony show to sell product to ignorant but well-intentioned enthusiasts.` I *am* pretty `about him saying that the HD Cleans "acts somewhat like an abrasive" though, and IMO that givee a lot of insight into how he views his intended audience; we Autopians are not in his target demographic.


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BUT, being no Zymol-hater and feeling the flamethrowers getting warmed up, I`ll remind everyone that some very well-respected Autopians have used certain` Zymol Estate Glazes with complete satisfaction.` And HD Cleans is no worse (as a product of its type) than Pinnacle`s Paintwork Cleansing Lotion or P21s GEPC or other OK paint cleaner/glazes.` Take the price point out of the equation (as "expensive" is utterly subjective) and it`s "hey, knock yourself out, no problem, to each`his own" in my view.`

[David Fermani]

Great comments guys. It`s certainly does get you all revved up with special marketing lingo, but certainly lacks in follow through. I can see a novice eating it up, but an experienced pro or enthusiast will just kinda` .

[imported_Larry A]

I felt that HD Cleanse was similar to Meguiars #7 or Hand glaze from 3 M. See how long it took him to wipe off the wax on the fender, at that rate it would take forever to do the whole car.

[David Fermani]

"Let the weight of the towel do the removal"......LOL. Can`t say I`ve tried that much.`

[Earl E Byrd]

Nuting gets the gurls all worked up then a ZYMOL video... Drinking game: Take a shot every time somebody uses the phrase `Dog and Pony show`.

[Accumulator]

On the HDC vs. M07/IHG...they *are* quite different.` The M07/IHG are functionally nonabrasive and don`t really do any appreciable cleaning unless you use an aggressive application medium.`


And those leave a lot more "feed the paint"-stuff (e.g. Meg`s TSO) behind.


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The Pinnacle and P21s products I mentioned are the ones`most directly comparable to HDC and I actually like the Pinnacle PCL (really *disliked* the P21s GEPC for some reason, tossed it out after trying it on the Jag`s ss lacquer).


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And yeah, the way anything Zymol tends to get people worked up is why I chimed in with some sorta-sympathetic comments

[AndyWax]

Whether you like or dislike the video we call all learn something from him. Putting opinions aside he presents his product very well. I have seen various videos from others in our profession that just do not resonate. I think too often we are trying to appeal to ourselves and other professional detailers rather than our target audience. I too have been guilty of this same thing. A perfect example is my company name.

[RaskyR1]

Carbanuba....lol

[C. Charles Hahn]

Pretty clear that video is aimed squarely at guys in their late 50s through their 70s; ones that grew up in the Blue Corral and Simoniz era of detailing. Basically the same process they`re used to using from back in their prime (for sake of earning acceptance), but made "modern" with some fancy-sounding lingo to make the products seem new and advanced.


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Carbanuba....lol

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Isn`t that the same thing Suggs says?

[Accumulator]

C. Charles Hahn...Heh heh, I`m kinda near to that demographic myself!` Sure remember Blue Corral (my mother warned me off Simoniz).

[David Fermani]

Accumulator is also known as the "hard shelled finish king"!`

[Accumulator]

Heh heh heh...oh, speaking of Zymol, I`m *still* using that tiny jar of "Detail" (relabeled as "Interior Wood Wax by BHMA) that I bought back in the mid-`80s!` The one whose lid cracked twenty-some years ago and "should`ve gone bad".