Quick Detailing `Aint Quick !

**HondaMan** · 08-23-2004, 11:23 AM

Well, I tried out my PB S&W and QD+ products this weekend. The S&W is pretty good -- might not be 100% or even 90% as good as a regular wash and rinse, for sure -- but it is quicker. And it`s nice to have a spray bottle available just for little blotches that may appear from time to time.

However, I have a problem with this board`s enthusiasm for QD+ and similar products. My argument isn`t so much with the product -- it works fine. But to really apply it correctly, it seems like it works best by letting it "harden" for a while on the car and then you wipe it off. This takes longer, although I don`t mind. But in this respect, it`s not much different than applying UPP or any other finishing product that asks to stay on the car for 15 minutes - 1 hour before you wipe it off.

Now, I know you can theoretically wipe QD+ off right away and this saves time. However, I`m not convinced that you get 100% of the benefits that way -- in fact, depending on how much stuff you wipe off, you could eliminate 50-90% of the formula by re-sopping it up on your MF towel. There are 3 different ways to apply QD+ listed on the bottle, so it`s clear that there`s no best way.

Still....I think it`s unrealistic to expect that you can apply a fresh coat of wax or sealant, QD+ or non-QD product or whatever in just a few minutes. Even if you exclude the "waiting time" from your calculations, the 2nd step of wiping the thing off does require some elbow grease. Whereas the S&W is 1-step cleaning instead of 2-step (wash, rinse) that we normally do, I`m not sure that if you use QD+ in a 1-step fashion that it`s what most of us want. If I`m wrong, vets, tell me.

Oh yeah...the darn spray bottle got the wax product all over places I didn`t want it to go. I hope it doesn`t hurt trim or plastic or glass, though I think I wiped it all off. Next time, I`ll use the regular nozzle and ooze it on by squeezing it.

**gnev8** · 08-23-2004, 11:31 AM

There`s been threads about this product before.
It is more of a spray wax than quick detailer as others have made.
But the end result is better than most of those.
Other QD I have used seem more like Spray and wipe. Just cleaning the surface.
PB QD+ leaves some Carnuba wax behind.

**Poorboy** · 08-23-2004, 11:32 AM

Well yes and no

Spray and Wipe if used correctly can maintain a well maintained vehicle for long periods between full washes.

QD+ is only meant to be a refresher...not a replacement for EX or other wax/sealants ....after many threads and discussions, many people find it best to apply to a cloth and then spread and remove, while I have started including a 2oz mist sprayer instead of a trigger to prevent the splatter.

Yes , sometimes it`s just as easy to put on another coat of your favorite wax/sealant, but if you don`t have the time to do the proper prep for those products, then the cleaners and wax in QD+ sure can make it glow real quick

**Dalton** · 08-23-2004, 12:38 PM

So what you are saying Steve is that QD+ can clean as well? Would that make it unneccesary to use S&W first? Or would you S&W the QD+ for a lightly dirty car?

I have yet to try the spray on towel then spead method. I actually gave up on QD+ because of the splatter staining my trim and it was a pain to get off.

**Poorboy** · 08-23-2004, 12:47 PM

OH yeas and the original version even better...I would use S & W first to take surface dirt off and then QD+ for any stubborn dirt...the 2oz sprayers were Natty`s idea and it definitely made it more spray friendly

**Dalton** · 08-23-2004, 01:08 PM

I may have to revisit this product using the sporay on the towel method.

**Dalton** · 08-23-2004, 01:56 PM

Steve,

Do you simply spray a whoile bunch on a MF wipe it on and wipe it off? Also, is it lubricating enough to remove stubborn stains without marring?

**Bob** · 08-23-2004, 03:04 PM

We used QD+ on a Crossfire and a Supra we did for a show this year and it made for a great product to use at the shows as a refresher from our last detail on these cars.

**HondaMan** · 08-23-2004, 05:38 PM

I did notice today that my magnesium metallic color looked a bit "darker" than normal. Not sure shinier, but deeper. Not sure if it was the angle of the sun, my imagination, or the shine.

Did look good, though.

**91LSMAN** · 08-23-2004, 06:55 PM

It`s funny that this thread should pop up today. I was using the above mentioned products less than 1 hour ago.

I used S&W on my Legend and then covered the car in an even coat of QD+, waited a few minutes and then buffed off. It worked really well.

But I will admit that when I orded QD+ I was expecting more of a quick detailing product, buts that probably due to me being used to other QD products from other compaines.

I recieved the bottle of S&W because I also ordered a clay bar. I plan to order more S&W within a few weeks because it`s a great product.

Steve has become by "crack dealer." I can`t get enought of this stuff.

**gnev8** · 08-23-2004, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by 91LSMAN
Steve has become my "crack dealer." I can`t get enought of this stuff.

Isn`t that the truth! Steve may not like that analogy, but it sure fits.

When I look at his list of products the only one I don`t own is The Bio-Degradable Cleaner.
And I`m dying for the Car wash and Wheel cleaner to come out.