Nice article on rotary buffing

[awd330]

Here is an Edge2000 setup -

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Here is a Lake Country 7.5" Advanced pad setup -

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And finally, here is the stock Makita wool pad -

[awd330]

Originally posted by Poorboy
so what are you argreeing to:dunno ..it seems to me that the edge system is about 1/2 higher than the backing plate from the base of the rotary no matter what pad is attached

No, there`s only about 1/8" difference between all 3 setups.

[Poorboy]

look i edited..looks like 1/4 to me:lol

[awd330]

I lined the ruler up with the handle of the buffer. I only see 1/8" difference. :dunno

[Poorboy]

no not from the handle..from the base of the motor...:nono

[awd330]

Originally posted by Poorboy
no not from the handle..from the base of the motor...:nono

:dunno It must be the angle of the camera. Looking at the base of the motor, it does look like 1/4" difference. When I was taking the picture, I used the handle as the leverage point and there was only 1/8" difference. The pads have varying diameters. Not sure if that would affect the angles?

[Poorboy]

your first pictire of a backing plate and the adapter really says it all...i really don`t think that small amount of space will really cause any difference in vibration, but the test of time and uses will tell us all:dunno

[awd330]

Originally posted by Poorboy
your first pictire of a backing plate and the adapter really says it all...i really don`t think that small amount of space will really cause any difference in vibration, but the test of time and uses will tell us all:dunno

Okay. Now I know I`m :crazy, because it`s after midnight and I`m standing out in my garage taking pictures of buffing pads.

I don`t know why I didn`t think of this in the first place, but here is a set of pictures using just the pads and mounting devices (sans the buffer itself). The assemblies are resting flush on the surface of the table.

Here is the E2K setup (in blue) compared with the LC 7.5" Advanced pad setup (in white) -

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Here is the view of the E2K setup compared to the stock Makita wool pad -

[Deanski]

Oh Boy! I knew that post would start people thinking..

Anyway, it seems the adapter is threaded deep into its socket so it can receive the 5/8 shaft. That said, it seems to keep the pad close to the same distance of a backing plate. This would keep vibration at the same level. Also, seeing the pad is ALWAYS centered, less chance of off-balance vibration as opposed to pad/backing plate combo.

Great idea on the quick disconnect.

However, if it was as accepted, say as a ratchet wrench or impact wrench with the disconnect, why hasn`t rotary mfg start making the shafts with this same type of quick disconnect? Sounds like The Edge could stand to make a ton on money licensing the pad rights as well.

And no I have not tried it. Maybe one day I may. I`ll have to P/U an adapter and pad combo and give it a "whirl".

Regards,
Deanski

[AutopiaAdmin]

Originally posted by Poorboy
Second obsevation is that if you hold something up with your finger(like the qc) or hold the same thing up with your whole hand(backing plate), which one would be steadier?

LOL, I think you are supposed to screw them onto a buffer.

[Poorboy]

:LOLOL

[Aaron@IAP]

What needs to be said is that when the adapter is snapped into the center of a pad it is just about the same as when a backing plate sits on the back of a pad. There also would not be anymore vibration with the adapter in fact there would be much less because it is perfectly centered without any effort. You cannot perfectly center a Velcro backing plate without a lot of trial and error or some measuring equipment. Also we are not the only company or the only pad that suggests buffing flat. The industry leader in buffing 3M even states on their packaging to buff almost FLAT and provides an illustration depicting so which I have attached here. Buffing flat prevents swirls and burning. Our pads have plenty of flex even more so than any standard Velcro backing plate which is quite hard and rigid. Our E2K pads bend and contour around the car. Additionally, when the adapter is snapped firmly into the pad it’s just as secure and steady as a backing plate since there basically is a backing plate inside the pad. Finally, if a rotary manufacturer approached us and was interested in our system we would of course jump at the chance but alas that has not happened because a new and revolutionary system like this needs to be accepted by the public before any big name company would take the risk and as you can see its hard to convince people to change. In the meantime the adapter is FREE from premiumautocare.com and changeover takes all of 3 seconds. Oh and GREAT PICS as usual Marj now go to sleep and stop dreaming and counting buffing pads!