Paint Jeweling?

**Beemerboy** · 06-04-2009, 01:11 PM

Benefits?

Something that was brought up recently in some threads that I was reading. I`ve practiced it before but haven`t really seen the benefits or maybe felt it necessary.

Maybe on show cars, or as an extreme detail, paint leveling would be beneficial.

Also with most cars that I`ve seen today there is a fair amount of orange peel under the clear, so its not going to make the car paint finish cover that up, or am I missing something.

**JaredPointer** · 06-04-2009, 01:41 PM

I feel it makes a difference sometimes. The only real way to tell is try a panel and see.

**RaskyR1** · 06-04-2009, 02:11 PM

I will only do it when the customer is paying for that level of correction. I will usually do a test spot too and see if there is a noticeable difference.

FWIW, I didn`t start calling it "jeweling" until seeing it the forums. To me it is just finishing but I kind of like the term jeweling now.

**JaredPointer** · 06-04-2009, 02:42 PM

I used to remember it being called burnishing by a long time Autopia member way back when before it caught on as the flavor of the month.

**M0nk3y** · 06-04-2009, 02:49 PM

I always do jeweling on the cars I detail.

I either us a Blue or Gold LCC pad and PO85rd.

I run it at around 700-900 RPM until the polish is worked in. Done properly and letting the polish work in will achieve fantastic results

**CARTfan** · 06-04-2009, 09:46 PM

I`ve never jeweled a finish before. How is it different than final polishing?

**Beemerboy** · 06-04-2009, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by CARTfan

I`ve never jeweled a finish before. How is it different than final polishing?

I`m wondering the same thing...polishing in general is to work the polish in until it starts and finishes diminishing so that it breaks down...the only thing that I can see as a difference variable speeds of the rotary and don`t get that process

**blk45** · 06-05-2009, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by Beemerboy

Maybe on show cars, or as an extreme detail, paint leveling would be beneficial.

That`s exactly it. It is a very time consuming process that most people don`t want to pay for. Considering your posts lately about certain detailers taking too long, I seriously doubt it`s for you!

**Beemerboy** · 06-05-2009, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by blk45

That`s exactly it. It is a very time consuming process that most people don`t want to pay for. Considering your posts lately about certain detailers taking too long, I seriously doubt it`s for you!

Thanks

Time for me is not always the issue, and my probe of the others detailers was merely an explanation of what seemed like a extra ordinary amount of time to me (only)

At this point I`m on over load with the answers

**cheapshot** · 06-05-2009, 12:18 PM

I think paint jeweling is no differ from final polishing.

basically leaving not a mar or spec in the paint before sealing or waxing.

I could be wrong though.

**CARTfan** · 06-05-2009, 11:33 PM

I never even heard the term before having read it in a product description for a certain kind of buffing pad.

**Poorboy** · 06-06-2009, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by cheapshot

I think paint jeweling is no differ from final polishing.

basically leaving not a mar or spec in the paint before sealing or waxing.

I could be wrong though.

yup just another name ... people just want something to call their own

...makes them sound like they know something you don`t

**Beemerboy** · 06-06-2009, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Poorboy

yup just another name ... people just want something to call their own

...makes them sound like they know something you don`t

I know something that the rest of you don`t...and I`m not telling

**David Fermani** · 06-06-2009, 12:05 PM

Jeweling, to me, is when you use a non-abrasive polish with a non-abrasive pad after all the necessary paint correction steps have been completed. I feel it kicks the gloss on some finishes into overdrive and locks in a glossier finish. The better(flatter) the finish is, the better the effect. I usually uses 3M Ultrafina or Menzerna 85RD.

**Ivan Rajic** · 06-06-2009, 12:38 PM

I agree with David. While most of my clients aren`t in search of a perfection 5-step polishing process, I do it every now and then and feel it does give a better finish to the paint.

I think the terms `finishing or final polishing" and "jeweling" are different in application in that finishing/final polishing is the last step of polishing, leaving the paint looking `perfect` for LSP, while jeweling is an extra, not really necessary step, that brings more gloss and levels the paint even more.

At a microscopic level, finishing down with some stuff like 106ff, M80 or 82, etc. as a final polishing still leaves small scratches from the polish that cannot be seen by the human eye, and this is what jeweling `fixes`.

Is it necessary? Not really, paint does look perfect before it. Does it enhance the look of the paint? From my experience yes, but stuff like that is very subjective. In theory, as mentioned above, it should make it better simply by leveling out the tiny scratches left by the final polishing.