Collinite 845 over Griots 3 in 1 ceramic

[mobenzowner]

I think the above title is what I will use for this years winter protection cocktail. Anyone ever put 845 over the 3 in 1 Ceramic? WOuld it be better to just do 2 coats of the 3 in 1?
Thanks in advance for the input.

[Dan]

3 in 1 is pretty slick stuff. I wonder if Collinite would even stick to it. Personally I’d do a half and half and see which wins.

[dcjredline]

Id never put a wipe on over a spray on. That seems counter intuitive.

[Coatings=crack]

I think it’s a fine combo and if your going to use a wax and a sealant…. Sealant first.

In the case of 845 is more of a sealant than wax.

I would go with what your thinking but to test durability maybe do a 50/50 on your hood this fall/winter to see which stack last longer

845/3-1
3/1/845.

Those are two forum favorites and I’m sure a lot hear would be interested in your findings.


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[wannafbody]

Yep, I`d use the 845 as a base and then spray and wipe over top

[Setec Astronomy]

I think it’s a fine combo and if your going to use a wax and a sealant…. Sealant first.

In the case of 845 is more of a sealant than wax.

Yep, I`d use the 845 as a base and then spray and wipe over top

Per the Collinite FAQ`s "Collinite waxes are formulated with #1 grade Brazilian carnauba wax to provide a deep shine as well as industry leading polymers to achieve long lasting protection."

So it`s got plenty of wax...so that should be the topper. If we are going to follow the standard prevailing logic--that a sealant won`t stick to a wax...then the 845 has to be the topper. If we follow the logic that nothing sticks to a ceramic...then the wax has to go first...which is negated by the first logic...which would lead the conclusion that you shouldn`t do this.

If I was being forced to do this I would definitely use the 3-in-1 first. And I guess if you`re trying to get through the winter, it`s worth a try.

[Fskof]

Why would you want to apply Collinite 845 over Griots 3 in 1? Both products do well as a stand alone for winter protection. You will have bonding issues which ever way you decide to apply as the topper. Both products are designed to be applied to a clean prepped surface for maximum protection and durability.

[PoisonTheWell]

Are we sure one wouldn’t break down the other? I’ve had issues trying to combine waxes/sealants/sprays across brands.

[roscopervis]

I don’t think this would work. Why do you want to anyway? Time has moved on, the logic of needing to add two different products for durability has been surpassed by more durable products.

[DownSouth]

I would stick with 2 layers of GG 3in1 24hrs apart. Good stuff.

[dwaleke]

Doesn’t 845 have solvents in it? That will eat into the 3-in-1 if that is the base.

Personally I’d stick to just 3-in-1. Not sure what you gain trying to mix them. I think you’ll only lose.

But test away and let us know how it goes.

[Accumulator]

Some sorta-random thoughts follow:

- If I were to top a 3-in-1 with something, I`d use FK1000P. OK, regulars here saw that coming but seriously, it always seems to bond to...anything...just fine and IME (one or two here had differing experiences, so YMMV) it will *drastically* outlast 845

- Yeah, the solvents/resins in 845 *MIGHT* compromise something underneath it, but that was never a problem when I tried using it before/after their 476S (both approaches worked fine). I`ve also used it over top of some AIOs and it never caused any problems that I could discern

- Though I`ve never used it, I`d probably lean towards just two coats of the GG 3-in-1, and *YES* you can sometimes layer products like that which contain "cleaners" and even abrasives (!) no matter what people say (voice of experience...BTDT countless times with good results, and a few times with lousy ones too). But let that first product "cure" (or whatever it does) for a day or so and be very gentle about applying/removing the topper (even Pinnacle Souveran has been known to compromise previously applied LSPs, and some durable ones too). But do a small area and inspect it carefully so you don`t [screw] up the whole vehicle and have to really start over

[CleanIt]

I`m more of a purist and would use two coats of one or the other.

[mobenzowner]

First, I really appreciate all the replies. Setec I actually do have fk1000p. Second, I washed, clayed and applied 2 coats of the ceramic 3 in 1 wax 24 hrs apart this weekend. I am actually just thinking about giving a third coat of the ceramic 3 in 1 in late September or early October. Then following up with ceramic booster washes like Griot`s or Hybrid Solutions. That should get the GMC Denali 1500 thru winter quite well.

Guess I can hijack this thread since it`s my own, but you all have any experience with either of those ceramic washes? I no they produce little in the way of suds.

[imported_Blake]

I’m in the camp to use one or the other. If you were going to use both I would put on 845 first and top with GG 3 in 1. To me 845 is a good winter sealant but I agree with Accumulator that FK 1000 is much better.