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    Sacrificial Layer For Optimum Gloss Coat

    I know a lot of these coatings suggest using a sacrificial layer to protect the coating, allowing it to last longer. Which I`m fine with. While I was researching different coatings, I came across Kamikaze Overcoat. It`s designed to be a sacrificial layer for their Kamikaze coat, or as they advertise it, any ceramic or glass coating. It can be also used as a stand alone product. I was wondering if anybody on here has any experience with this product. From videos I`ve seen, it looks promising and it`s water behavior is really nice.

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    Great stuff
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    Re: Sacrificial Layer For Optimum Gloss Coat

    I`ve never tested the Kamikaze line yet but Polish Angel products work great on Gloss-Coat. I`m a big fan of Rapidwaxx on Gloss-Coat.

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    Re: Sacrificial Layer For Optimum Gloss Coat

    Quote Originally Posted by Vega@Autopia View Post
    I`ve never tested the Kamikaze line yet but Polish Angel products work great on Gloss-Coat. I`m a big fan of Rapidwaxx on Gloss-Coat.

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    Wow, that looks incredible and beading doesn`t get much better than that! I have to look into that, it looks incredible.

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    Re: Sacrificial Layer For Optimum Gloss Coat

    You can read this post from Yvan of optimum. With the cars that I have gloss coated all I use is ONR with optimum`s spray detailer. Once in awhile I will use opti-seal as a drying aid just because. Not really needed as it won`t last long on Gloss Coat anyways.

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    Re: Sacrificial Layer For Optimum Gloss Coat

    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    You can read this post from Yvan of optimum. With the cars that I have gloss coated all I use is ONR with optimum`s spray detailer. Once in awhile I will use opti-seal as a drying aid just because. Not really needed as it won`t last long on Gloss Coat anyways.

    That`s great that it doesn`t need it. I remember reading also that gloss coat was designed so you can put stuff on top of it, like waxes etc if you want, even though it`s not necessary. Only reason I was looking to do it is for aggressive water beading and super hydrophobic behavior. Just makes washing and drying the car much easier. Right now my car isn`t coated, but has 2 layers of Collinite 845 on it. I dry the whole car with a leaf blower and all the water just comes right off.

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    Heh heh, seems like some folks put about as much effort into augmenting their coatings as I put into using just conventional LSPs.
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    Re: Sacrificial Layer For Optimum Gloss Coat

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdevil77 View Post
    I came across Kamikaze Overcoat.
    OverCoat is very cool and works well. I really like it.

    If you want a "coating like" topper Overcoat and CarPro Reload are the 2 I would suggest.



    On my truck that sits outside 24/7 and has Opti-Coat I tend to use Opti Car Wax.

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    Gyeon cure
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    Re: Sacrificial Layer For Optimum Gloss Coat

    Quote Originally Posted by TroyScherer View Post

    On my truck that sits outside 24/7 and has Opti-Coat I tend to use Opti Car Wax.
    That also works and for the op, gloss coat can be clayed with optimum car wax.
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    Re: Sacrificial Layer For Optimum Gloss Coat

    Can Sonax Brilliant Shine detailer be used? It`s cheap and got great reviews from what I`ve read. It being ungodly hydrophobic is a huge plus as well. I was between reload and Overcoat. After some research, I read some horror stories about reload with streaking and oil smears that are a real pain to remove. Not to mention my car is black, so it would be very noticeable. Overcoat looks good, but at 75 bucks, I can`t help but consider something like Sonax Brilliant Shine detailer after what I`ve read about it. At that price point, and being easy to apply, I wouldn`t have a problem applying it with every wash or every other wash.

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    Re: Sacrificial Layer For Optimum Gloss Coat

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdevil77 View Post
    Can Sonax Brilliant Shine detailer be used? It`s cheap and got great reviews from what I`ve read. It being ungodly hydrophobic is a huge plus as well. I was between reload and Overcoat. After some research, I read some horror stories about reload with streaking and oil smears that are a real pain to remove. Not to mention my car is black, so it would be very noticeable. Overcoat looks good, but at 75 bucks, I can`t help but consider something like Sonax Brilliant Shine detailer after what I`ve read about it. At that price point, and being easy to apply, I wouldn`t have a problem applying it with every wash or every other wash.
    Of course! Any QD can be used, they typically just don`t last very long. Don`t expect much durability unless you`re gonna apply weekly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrock645 View Post
    Of course! Any QD can be used, they typically just don`t last very long. Don`t expect much durability unless you`re gonna apply weekly.
    I don`t mind applying regularly. Especially at that price point. From what I`ve read, the length of time Sonax bsd lasts is remarkable.

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    Re: Sacrificial Layer For Optimum Gloss Coat

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdevil77 View Post
    Can Sonax Brilliant Shine detailer be used? It`s cheap and got great reviews from what I`ve read. It being ungodly hydrophobic is a huge plus as well. I was between reload and Overcoat. After some research, I read some horror stories about reload with streaking and oil smears that are a real pain to remove. Not to mention my car is black, so it would be very noticeable. Overcoat looks good, but at 75 bucks, I can`t help but consider something like Sonax Brilliant Shine detailer after what I`ve read about it. At that price point, and being easy to apply, I wouldn`t have a problem applying it with every wash or every other wash.
    its not going to leave that slick feeling. Check out forum member Loach`s YouTube channel. He goes by waxmode. I would say to stick with optimum`s detail spray and opti-seal to stick with product synergy. Again gloss coat does not need a topper. Meguiar`s M34 also works fine as it leaves nothing behind other than gloss.
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    I forgot to mention that you can mix ONR as a QD.
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