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Brazo
12-21-2005, 09:56 AM
Hi guys I did a detail on the weekend after a guy had taken a cold claybar to his car with insufficient lube and well produced the lovely effect below!



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/Claybarmishap001.jpg



Quite severe marring/holograms and swirls, that showed up in the shade!!!



I did improve it massivly but very fine swirls till resulted which for the life of me I couldn`t remove. My question is what could I have tried? I don`t think it was micromarring as stepping down didn`t remove them.



Process: I used a rotary @1000-1500rpm, cyclo and a pc (all speeds) and an assortment of polishes, mainly the whole ssr line. I used mainly foam polishing pads but did use a foam cutting pad at one point - no differenceI started soft worked up and down again but just could not shift the swirls. The car is a renault clio, I have a lot of experience with these clios and have had no trouble perfecting them in the past. Generally the paint is medium softness (clearcoated). I used the same process that I recently used on an audi with A1 results but it just wouldn`t work. The guy was very pleased but I wasn`t satisified!



Here is the after pic, you will notice the light grouping isn`t as tight as it could be with some fine swirls.



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/Claybarmishap011.jpg





Many thanks in advance

hood rich
12-21-2005, 12:25 PM
i have spent hours beating myself up over a job i`m not satisfied with... the fluorescent lights can really work against you sometimes.... every time i wasn`t 100% satisfied with the job, i`d pull it outside and the car would look like a million bucks. i definitely see a huge improvement, pictures are hard to judge your work by though. i think it looks really good, but can`t give you my final opinion unless i saw the car in person.





here`s how i normally do cars that have light scratches or swirls and have dark paint:

-using my dewalt rotary buffer i`d use a wool finish pad to cut with... it`s not the wool polishing pad... it`s the one in between the polish pad and cut pad... not extremely agressive but usually can do the job no problem. i do not like using foam pads to cut with, they just don`t do the job right.



-next i`d switch to my porter cable 7424 and would use the green foam polishing pad (http://www.properautocare.com/grgipopadfor.html) made for german paints. i like to use menzerna`s final polish II with the green foam pad... you will be very happy on darker paints.



-after the polish i like to look it over and make sure i didn`t miss anything then wax with menzerna`s FMJ.





that`s kind of a quick overview of the process i like to do... but you can get the general idea. i have been very happy with the menzerna product line and the green foam pads... every vehicle i do ends up looking better than new when i`m done. it works for me.... there might be another method that works better for you.

Brazo
12-22-2005, 03:40 PM
Thanks Rich



Your process though is similer to what I have used previously to go from



this



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/cliotrophy001.jpg



to this



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/cliotrophy004.jpg



this



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/911turbo001.jpg



to this



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/911turbo026.jpg



and this



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/AudiA4001.jpg



to this



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Brazoo/AudiA4043.jpg



So it can be done I just struggled with this car



Any other thoughts people?



TIA!

DrSauekraut
12-22-2005, 04:47 PM
Hmmm . . . not what I’d expect to see after so many various attempts. Is it possible that maybe you were having a bad day?

Tasty
12-22-2005, 07:16 PM
Yeah, that`s quite an assortment of gear and product to go through and not be happy. Weird.