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Richt
09-24-2005, 02:49 PM
Today was intially planned as winter coat time for the car but the weather was good, I had finally got the full array of products that I had been collecting to make full use off my PC and tried them out before hand enough to feel confident enough to use them on my black car, I decided today was the day!



Since owning the car (March purchase) the car has always had a few dealer/production line induced swirl marks. Until this year all my work had been done by hand, but following the purchase off a black car I could not get it to my liking - Many hours hand polishing had got the car to a better condition but I still cringed in full sun. So then came the PC. Nervous about using it on black I went with some safe milder options for it`s first machine polish. Meguiars Speed Glaze #80 and polishing pad was the most abbrassive product/pad combo I owned and had used on it. The car looked better but in full sun there where some marks in the hood, roof and curved areas under the windows on the rear quater panels it would not take out.



A few weeks ago I recieved some of the Poorboys SSR range 1, 2 and 2.5, plus some Optimum Polish. A quick test one eveing when they arrived, maybe a bit stupidly on my car without practice left saw me have a few problems, some nasty marks left by SSR 2.5 and a Sonus 4 inch SFX Polish pad removing some off the deeper scratches. Polished out but left me knowing I needed to practice before tackeling anything more than the spot defects on my paint.



The good old trusty beater car had been abused with a practice off the SSRs, Optimum Polish and different pads combos over the last few weeks, leaving me a little more ready to try it on the decent car today.



In true Autopian style started with the mildest combo first to be sure - SSR 1 on a DAS Green Polishing, did nothing on the IMO quite light swirling I had. Due to time scale and not knowing when I needed to head of today I dimissed the Optimum as I had found it needed to be worked longer than the SSR`s. It meant I needed to step up to SSR 2 or 2.5. After reading a post saying 2 should deal with light swirls I went with that again on a DAS Green polishing pad. It made lightwork of most off the swirls, some took an additional attempt or two (ones on the curve on the rear quaters) but it did the trick without going up a pad or to the SSR 2.5. So far happy days. Worked in the sun at first not a problem with the SSR but desided to work in the shade by turning the car round in the end as needed as it alowed me to work the product longer.



Having had good results with VM and again a DAS Green polishing pad in the past detail I followed up the SSR 2 with this. The surface SSR 2 had left was LSP ready without a doubt but didnt quite have the wet look I had achieved/seen before. I took a guess that SSR 1`s apperance would not be that much different to the 2, and a few posts on here I had read people where using VM or PWC as they looked better than SSR 1, I went with the VM. Shine, depth, gloss and wetness all improved that paint was really coming on well.



Again having in the past used VM and a polishing pad to clean up the paint, I had then gone and folowed up with Clearkote Red Machone Glaze, which had added even more depth and wetness in the past, decided to stick to what I knew and do it again. RMG this time on Sonus DAS Blue Finishing pad. It did the trick again.



Fianl results of the polishing no wax or sealant, a very wet, deep swirl free surface. For light to mild swirls SSR 2 did the trick IMO. It doesnt get disscussed much on here the SSR 2.5 seems to get more talk, but SSR 2 worked well for me today.



Some pics - sorry no befores didnt think - doh!



Hood



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/r-jay-clio/SSR%20Polish/P9240067.jpg



Token reflection pic ( not to good lots of glare)



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/r-jay-clio/SSR%20Polish/P9240072.jpg



Rear Quarter shade



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/r-jay-clio/SSR%20Polish/P9240071.jpg



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/r-jay-clio/SSR%20Polish/P9240077.jpg

Richt
09-24-2005, 02:51 PM
Rear Quarter Sun



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/r-jay-clio/SSR%20Polish/P9240079.jpg



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/r-jay-clio/SSR%20Polish/P9240087.jpg



Door and Wing



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/r-jay-clio/SSR%20Polish/P9240082.jpg



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/r-jay-clio/SSR%20Polish/P9240080.jpg

Richt
09-24-2005, 02:52 PM
Sorry about the blue tape all in progress pics!



Door and wing full sun



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/r-jay-clio/SSR%20Polish/P9240092.jpg



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/r-jay-clio/SSR%20Polish/P9240091.jpg



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/r-jay-clio/SSR%20Polish/P9240090.jpg



Full car



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/r-jay-clio/SSR%20Polish/P9240089.jpg

Richt
09-24-2005, 03:00 PM
One observation I did make off the SSR 2 lots of splatter, what ever I did when I increased the it seemed to splatter small spots around. Didnt experience any dusting but found it needed clean up on the splatter I had not got with any other products using them in the same way? Any ideas?



I ended up having the afternoon to do some more work on the car in the end so followed up the RMG with Clearkote Yellow Cream Wax after getting good results previously before here -



http://autopia.org/forum/showthread.php?t=54793&highlight=Yellow+Cream+wax



Saying that I had only used it once (in the above thread infact and not touched it since) so it ended up a revisting day as it dragged the YCW from the back of the cupboard. As I said in the thread a few months ago, this stuff seems to smooth the paint out more still afterthe VM and RMG. A great product and leaves a great finish, but not discussed on here much.



Cheers



Rich

03k20a2
09-24-2005, 03:03 PM
looks nice, how do you like the RMG? im debating on pickin some up for my car

Richt
09-24-2005, 03:10 PM
RMG is a lovely product to use by PC, adds futher depth, gloss and wetness on dark colour over VM. Worked on a finishing pad by PC it seems to dissovle into the paint needing little wipe off.

imported_Picus
09-24-2005, 03:23 PM
I love reading your threads because I always end up copying your LSPs. :) Nice work with the PC, I like SSR2 also - give that OCP a go when you have more time.

Richt
09-24-2005, 03:27 PM
Not sure what to LSP this one with yet! lol



Been using the OCP on different pads - it worked really well on the hood of my daily drive, but as it stays wet for so long need to work out when I can stop working it? With the SSR I can see it start to clear out so know when its done.

dschribs
09-24-2005, 03:30 PM
RichT

So SSR 2 on a polishng pad is more slightly more aggressive than Meg`s #80 on a polishing pad? From your post, it seems to me that it removed what the #80 didn`t correct? How many minutes would you estimate you worked the SSR 2 on one section with the PC?



If you did have to "step it up" what do you think your process would have been? SSR 2.5 on a polishing pad or SSR 2 on a cutting pad??



Very nice work!

Richt
09-24-2005, 03:36 PM
Yeah the SSR 2 seems to have corrected what the #80 couldnt. Same pad, but the SSR 2 seemed to do more. Most sections 2- 4 mins until the polish started to clear. In some areas I repeated this again and again if needed.



If it hadnt have been working I think I would have gone up to the 2.5 on a polishing pad.

imported_Picus
09-24-2005, 03:50 PM
Not sure what to LSP this one with yet! lol



Been using the OCP on different pads - it worked really well on the hood of my daily drive, but as it stays wet for so long need to work out when I can stop working it? With the SSR I can see it start to clear out so know when its done.



You mean whan can you wipe it without it being oily, right? It will work for a long, long time, but I usually tell when it`s ready to come off because it turns kind of clear. You get a feel for it after a few panels. But yes, definitely set some time aside when using it - the SSR`s flash much quicker.

Richt
09-24-2005, 03:56 PM
Yeah it seems to stay wet for so long so never sure how long to leave it and weather it will have done its work, will pay more attention to seeing if I can see it clear. On my test panels it seemed to take twice as long maybe as the Poorboys. The SSR`s though seem to let you know when they are done.

RogueM3
09-24-2005, 04:14 PM
Yeah it seems to stay wet for so long so never sure how long to leave it and weather it will have done its work, will pay more attention to seeing if I can see it clear. On my test panels it seemed to take twice as long maybe as the Poorboys. The SSR`s though seem to let you know when they are done.

So RMG is definitely worth it on dark colors...I just bought some VM and Nattys Blue but am willing to try something else in between if need be...



Damn...I cant believe how the money is flying out of my account. :scared:

imported_Picus
09-24-2005, 04:17 PM
So RMG is definitely worth it on dark colors...I just bought some VM and Nattys Blue but am willing to try something else in between if need be...



Damn...I cant believe how the money is flying out of my account. :scared:



You won`t regret it. RMG is one of my favorite products because it`s so easy to apply and remove (since there is almost no removal) and it just makes black look so deep, plus it does have some filling ability (though minor) which I like.

RogueM3
09-24-2005, 04:25 PM
You won`t regret it. RMG is one of my favorite products because it`s so easy to apply and remove (since there is almost no removal) and it just makes black look so deep, plus it does have some filling ability (though minor) which I like.

Before I order, is it going to add to the already deep shine I have heard that VM provides?



Is the RMG going to be similar to most any glaze on the market? (I only ask because AutoGeek doesnt carry ClearKote..and I like their fast shipping and discount). Looking for the wettest finish on my dark blue m3....Nattys will be the LSP..maybe with EX-P underneath it.. :think: