View Full Version : blatant autopia myths.....
wannafbody
03-29-2005, 01:13 PM
i`ll start a list of what i feel are some of the blatant myths posted here
1) silicone is BAD
2) polishes with "fillers" or oils are bad
3) NXT or any other product with any amount of specialized cleaners are a CLEANER WAX
4) OTC products are inferior to "specialized private branded products"
Anyone care to add some more? I`m posting this not to start a flame war but rather to say that its time to post accurate info not misleading info:)
MongooseGA
03-29-2005, 01:17 PM
NXT is a sort of cleaner wax. It`s meant to be a one step wax for the average consumer.
I don`t think most of those are thought to be true here. There are many OTC products people use (Mother`s Billet & Aluminum Polish, GC wash, etc...)
Polishes with fillers or oils have their own purpose, and considering people are going to be doing more than a one step polish, they don`t fit in normal regimens.
Accumulator
03-29-2005, 01:26 PM
Heh heh, one man`s myth is another man`s religion ;)
But I`m all for a list of blatantly untrue stuff...
SilverLexus
03-29-2005, 02:20 PM
"OTC products are inferior to "specialized private branded products"
I have to happen to agree with this statement. I have tried dozens of OTC products and very few are worthwhile - examples would be NXT soap, Stoner`s IG, Eagle One Tire Swipes.
The fact is that boutique soaps and waxes and other chemicals are made and sold by smaller businesses that can use higher end ingredients and do smaller batches or runs for the highest quality.
I certainly keep an open mind, maybe the Michelin tire products will be great for instance, but I like supporting the higher quality product firms like PakShak, Pinnacle, P21S, ExcelDetail, Wayne`s, Wolfgang, Sonus, etc. that may not show up at the local Pep Boys.
wannafbody
03-29-2005, 02:27 PM
I`m not saying that slightly better products don`t exist but rather attempting to hit the "Turtle Wax is junk" and other type of hit and run posts that occur-Mohters products are a good example of some very good OTC offerings for a wide range of users
BradE
03-29-2005, 02:27 PM
NXT is a cleaner wax.
Lets examine further, it`s a wax, it has cleaners, and according to Mike Phillips isn`t layerable. Yep, sounds like a cleaner wax to me.
wannafbody
03-29-2005, 02:31 PM
Brad- perfect example of an eroneuous post- Mike has stated repeatedly that a second application of NXT will not remove an entire layer of previously applied NXT-if you choose to disagree thats fine but to blatently post the info is unethical
Lowejackson
03-29-2005, 02:31 PM
2) polishes with "fillers" or oils are bad
When did fillers become bad or have I missed something
sQuashed
03-29-2005, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by BradE
NXT is a cleaner wax.
Lets examine further, it`s a wax, it has cleaners, and according to Mike Phillips isn`t layerable. Yep, sounds like a cleaner wax to me.
:werd:
Intercooled
03-29-2005, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by SilverLexus
"OTC products are inferior to "specialized private branded products"
I have to happen to agree with this statement. I have tried dozens of OTC products and very few are worthwhile - examples would be NXT soap, Stoner`s IG, Eagle One Tire Swipes.
The fact is that boutique soaps and waxes and other chemicals are made and sold by smaller businesses that can use higher end ingredients and do smaller batches or runs for the highest quality.
I certainly keep an open mind, maybe the Michelin tire products will be great for instance, but I like supporting the higher quality product firms like PakShak, Pinnacle, P21S, ExcelDetail, Wayne`s, Wolfgang, Sonus, etc. that may not show up at the local Pep Boys.
I agree 100%. I like the boutique products better,they cater to thr "real" autopian and pro. OTC products have to be kind of "idiot proof" for the average user.
JeffM
03-29-2005, 02:35 PM
Myth...hmm....how about DACP is hard to remove :LOLOL
Inzane
03-29-2005, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by SilverLexus
very few are worthwhile - examples would be NXT soap, Stoner`s IG, Eagle One Tire Swipes.
Are you saying those products ARE worthwhile, or aren`t?
:nixweiss
I think all three of those mentioned products are great.
wannafbody
03-29-2005, 02:42 PM
myth- WalMart microfibers scratch your cars surface-improperly using a product produces scratches ;)
Spilchy
03-29-2005, 02:44 PM
No flame war intended either, but...
Never heard anyone say that polishes with fillers or oils are bad. They may be "bad" if you are trying to provide a base coat for a sealant because of adhesion issues, but never have they been deemed bad because they are just plain "bad." #80 has oils and everyone here seems to love it :nixweiss
A majority of the folks here including professionals use OTC products such as car wash soaps, glass cleaners, all purpose cleaners, dressings, quick detailers, spray waxes, regular waxes, etc... People don`t "bash" them at all. People may bash the durability like Gold Class, NXT or Mother`s, but not their results. Then again Souveran and P21s durability stinks.
Mike Phillips indicated I believe that NXT was not really layerbale because it has cleaners in it. Correct me if I`m wrong.
I don`t know much about silicon to comment. But I wouldn`t want my tire treads to be covered in it from a tire shine. Ask Jimmy Buffit who nearly lost it in his Miata on brand new tires.
BradE
03-29-2005, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by wannafbody
Brad- perfect example of an eroneuous post- Mike has stated repeatedly that a second application of NXT will not remove an entire layer of previously applied NXT-if you choose to disagree thats fine but to blatently post the info is unethical
No more unethical than your "theories" about Zaino, a product which you have never used.