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6']['9
01-24-2005, 09:02 PM
Any of you guys perfer one over the other. I like the gloss FPII gives but i think the FP cuts a bit more. I`ve also noticed the FPII you can work in the sun and it doesnt cake up but the FP does cake up if the paints a bit warm, However at night they both work killer. I know it wouldnt make much sense to go FP then FPII. Any of you guys have this happen to you.
FYI: Im using these products with both a rotory and a pc
stevet
01-24-2005, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by 6`][`9
I like the gloss FPII gives but i think the FP cuts a bit more.
I find FP II has more cut. I also find it easier to work with.
imported_NYV6Coupe
01-24-2005, 11:19 PM
I`ve used FPII with great success, in fact it was the 1st polishing product I bought when I picked-up a PC. I based my decision on this info from CMA:
"Improved for 2004: The factory made a very slight change in this product for the US market. They added some lubricating oils to keep the product wetter, allowing longer polishing. This may be an advantage if you live in a climate of high heat and/or humidity (Florida, Texas, Arizona, etc.). While this change was very small we felt we should identify this as a change because the original formula Final Polish is still being sold to body shops and the OEM market. We asked the factory in Germany to make this change because we felt it made the polish more user friendly for the enthusiast."
You can read more here: http://www.properautocare.com/menfinpol.html
stevet
01-25-2005, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by NYV6Coupe
I`ve used FPII with great success, in fact it was the 1st polishing product I bought when I picked-up a PC. I based my decision on this info from CMA:
"Improved for 2004: The factory made a very slight change in this product for the US market. They added some lubricating oils to keep the product wetter, allowing longer polishing. This may be an advantage if you live in a climate of high heat and/or humidity (Florida, Texas, Arizona, etc.). While this change was very small we felt we should identify this as a change because the original formula Final Polish is still being sold to body shops and the OEM market. We asked the factory in Germany to make this change because we felt it made the polish more user friendly for the enthusiast."
You can read more here: http://www.properautocare.com/menfinpol.html
CMA makes it sound like Menzerna FP II is modified version of FP I. It`s not. FP II is really Menzerna Micro Polish. Micro polish already existed. CMA makes it sound like Menzerna created FP II just for CMA.
CaptRamrod
01-25-2005, 12:17 AM
Stevet,
Is there a way to get just FP and not MicroPolish?
CaptRamrod
Originally posted by CaptRamrod
Stevet,
Is there a way to get just FP and not MicroPolish?
CaptRamrod
Contact Menzerna direct @ 845-325-5850. Keep in mind
that they only do $50.00 orders at the minimum. And
as mentioned, MicroPolish is actually FPII. FP is the
actual Final Polish.
Just for future reference, here`s a list of products
with cut and gloss levels. Cut and gloss are graded on a
scale of 1 (lowest level), to 5 (the highest level).
PowerGloss
Cut- 5.0 (the most aggressive of the Menzerna line; cuts
1000 sanding marks and has the lowest gloss @ 1.5)
Works on aged and oxidized paint.
Intensive Polish
Cut- 3.5 (cuts 2000 grit sanding marks and has a gloss
level of 3.0). Works on aged and oxidized paint.
MicroPolish (aka FPII)
Cut- 2.0 (cuts 2500 sanding marks and has gloss level
of 4). According to my information, this is actually more
geared to fresh paint, either by OEM or bodyshop repair.
I am unsure if there was any change to the product other
than the name.
FinalPolish
Cut- 1.5 (has the lowest cut of all polish/ compounds;
designed specifically for haze, swirl and hologram reduction
or elimination and has a gloss level of 4). Works on aged
and oxidized paint.
There are 2 other products in the line that have been
mentioned here before: PO106 and PO 85RD.
PO106 cut @ 2.5 and knocks down 2500 sanding marks,
while 85RD cuts @ 1.5 and knocks down 3000 sanding
marks. These are specifically designed for scratch resistant
paints. They offer the highest gloss of known and discussed
Menzerna line (gloss level 5), but there are diseigned for
a specific purpose which most of us would not really have a
need for. I would sugggest sticking with the above
mentioned compound/ polish products above. PO 106 and
85RD are more expensive, and truth be told, I don`t really
think you will find a significant difference in the paint`s appearance.
imported_NYV6Coupe
01-25-2005, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by stevet
CMA makes it sound like Menzerna FP II is modified version of FP I. It`s not. FP II is really Menzerna Micro Polish. Micro polish already existed. CMA makes it sound like Menzerna created FP II just for CMA.
stevet: thanks for the info, I wasn`t aware. My first exposure to the Menzerna line was after FPII was released & CMA made it sound like FPII superceded FP.
Regardless of my error ...... it`s an excellent product.
6']['9
01-25-2005, 09:33 PM
thanks guys.