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6']['9
01-24-2005, 09:02 PM
Any of you guys perfer one over the other. I like the gloss FPII gives but i think the FP cuts a bit more. I`ve also noticed the FPII you can work in the sun and it doesnt cake up but the FP does cake up if the paints a bit warm, However at night they both work killer. I know it wouldnt make much sense to go FP then FPII. Any of you guys have this happen to you.



FYI: Im using these products with both a rotory and a pc

stevet
01-24-2005, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by 6`][`9

I like the gloss FPII gives but i think the FP cuts a bit more.



I find FP II has more cut. I also find it easier to work with.

imported_NYV6Coupe
01-24-2005, 11:19 PM
I`ve used FPII with great success, in fact it was the 1st polishing product I bought when I picked-up a PC. I based my decision on this info from CMA:



"Improved for 2004: The factory made a very slight change in this product for the US market. They added some lubricating oils to keep the product wetter, allowing longer polishing. This may be an advantage if you live in a climate of high heat and/or humidity (Florida, Texas, Arizona, etc.). While this change was very small we felt we should identify this as a change because the original formula Final Polish is still being sold to body shops and the OEM market. We asked the factory in Germany to make this change because we felt it made the polish more user friendly for the enthusiast."



You can read more here: http://www.properautocare.com/menfinpol.html

stevet
01-25-2005, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by NYV6Coupe

I`ve used FPII with great success, in fact it was the 1st polishing product I bought when I picked-up a PC. I based my decision on this info from CMA:



"Improved for 2004: The factory made a very slight change in this product for the US market. They added some lubricating oils to keep the product wetter, allowing longer polishing. This may be an advantage if you live in a climate of high heat and/or humidity (Florida, Texas, Arizona, etc.). While this change was very small we felt we should identify this as a change because the original formula Final Polish is still being sold to body shops and the OEM market. We asked the factory in Germany to make this change because we felt it made the polish more user friendly for the enthusiast."



You can read more here: http://www.properautocare.com/menfinpol.html



CMA makes it sound like Menzerna FP II is modified version of FP I. It`s not. FP II is really Menzerna Micro Polish. Micro polish already existed. CMA makes it sound like Menzerna created FP II just for CMA.

CaptRamrod
01-25-2005, 12:17 AM
Stevet,

Is there a way to get just FP and not MicroPolish?



CaptRamrod

usdm
01-25-2005, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by CaptRamrod

Stevet,

Is there a way to get just FP and not MicroPolish?



CaptRamrod



Contact Menzerna direct @ 845-325-5850. Keep in mind

that they only do $50.00 orders at the minimum. And

as mentioned, MicroPolish is actually FPII. FP is the

actual Final Polish.



Just for future reference, here`s a list of products

with cut and gloss levels. Cut and gloss are graded on a

scale of 1 (lowest level), to 5 (the highest level).



PowerGloss

Cut- 5.0 (the most aggressive of the Menzerna line; cuts

1000 sanding marks and has the lowest gloss @ 1.5)

Works on aged and oxidized paint.



Intensive Polish

Cut- 3.5 (cuts 2000 grit sanding marks and has a gloss

level of 3.0). Works on aged and oxidized paint.



MicroPolish (aka FPII)

Cut- 2.0 (cuts 2500 sanding marks and has gloss level

of 4). According to my information, this is actually more

geared to fresh paint, either by OEM or bodyshop repair.

I am unsure if there was any change to the product other

than the name.



FinalPolish

Cut- 1.5 (has the lowest cut of all polish/ compounds;

designed specifically for haze, swirl and hologram reduction

or elimination and has a gloss level of 4). Works on aged

and oxidized paint.



There are 2 other products in the line that have been

mentioned here before: PO106 and PO 85RD.



PO106 cut @ 2.5 and knocks down 2500 sanding marks,

while 85RD cuts @ 1.5 and knocks down 3000 sanding

marks. These are specifically designed for scratch resistant

paints. They offer the highest gloss of known and discussed

Menzerna line (gloss level 5), but there are diseigned for

a specific purpose which most of us would not really have a

need for. I would sugggest sticking with the above

mentioned compound/ polish products above. PO 106 and

85RD are more expensive, and truth be told, I don`t really

think you will find a significant difference in the paint`s appearance.

imported_NYV6Coupe
01-25-2005, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by stevet

CMA makes it sound like Menzerna FP II is modified version of FP I. It`s not. FP II is really Menzerna Micro Polish. Micro polish already existed. CMA makes it sound like Menzerna created FP II just for CMA.



stevet: thanks for the info, I wasn`t aware. My first exposure to the Menzerna line was after FPII was released & CMA made it sound like FPII superceded FP.



Regardless of my error ...... it`s an excellent product.

6']['9
01-25-2005, 09:33 PM
thanks guys.