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joburnet
11-30-2004, 08:07 AM
I was doing a car and it had some tree sap on it that I could not remove at all. I tried Tarminator, 3M wax and adhesive remover, Oxy Clean, APC, and QEW but nothing would even make a dent. I would like to remove this but I can not hurt the paint because it is a very expensive car.

salty
11-30-2004, 08:16 AM
Have you tried clay. Also alcohol based solvents work well. As in Iso. myself i use "dare i say" Methyl Hydrate. There was a thread about this last week.

imported_pdsterns
11-30-2004, 09:33 AM
Isopropal Alcohol works best on tree sap. Turpentine next.

oaevo8u
11-30-2004, 10:57 AM
I used turpentine and clay and some other so called tar remover and it finally took pp and a oarnge pad and it is now gone but I can still c som etching.

shaw
11-30-2004, 01:19 PM
I have heard that Avon Skin-So-Soft works well on sap. I have yet to try it. Just stay away from Lacquer Thinner.

Pondscum
11-30-2004, 01:45 PM
My first choice would be AIO or PwC. It is possible that the sap has worked its way into the clear coat and has stained it, if it`s been on there for an extended period of time.



Many polishes use essentially mineral spirits which will work as well or better than alcohol and turpentine.

imported_Shaun Carollo
11-30-2004, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by shaw

I have heard that Avon Skin-So-Soft works well on sap. I have yet to try it. Just stay away from Lacquer Thinner.





My old (thank god) stealership job used a mix of tar remover and laquer thinner 50/50, is this a no no?

imported_UnsanePyro
11-30-2004, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by Shaun Carollo

My old (thank god) stealership job used a mix of tar remover and laquer thinner 50/50, is this a no no?



That sounds like some potent stuff :scared

White95Max
11-30-2004, 09:10 PM
Ditto. When I worked at a local body shop, we used lacquer thinner to get tar off.

It gets better... we had this white Intrigue come in with this red stain all around the emblems and door handles, and my boss told me to use Super Iron Out with a toothbrush on the car. I got a bloody nose after like 30 seconds of using it. I guessed that the vapors/fumes were not healthy to be breathing.

I hardly ever get bloody noses, and this one just poured. It was pretty weird.

shaw
12-01-2004, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Shaun Carollo

My old (thank god) stealership job used a mix of tar remover and laquer thinner 50/50, is this a no no?



Lacquer Thinner LT is a No-No on clear.:nono The sun`s UV rays will spur the process on, as the resin system will break down over time causing micro cracking. This will make the paint look cloudy. Each car will be different, as a number of factors contribute to the degradation of the paint. Some may escape the danger while others will not. Below the belt line may be safe for a hit or two of LT only as a last resort.



I have used it and stopped after inquiring to specialists that interface regularly with paint and auto manufacturers. LT is not a risk that I am willing to take.



The 50/50 mix prescribed may be a bit more forgiving, but still something to be avoided. Mineral spirits should be strong enough for most problems if allowed to dwell on the surface. Old, baked on sap can be a challenge.

joburnet
12-03-2004, 04:19 PM
The alcohol worked great, why haven`t I heard about this before?